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Offline Arranroots

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Re: Scottish Orphanage
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 18 July 10 17:32 BST (UK) »
Well this was just an educated guess, so by all means consider it as an option rather than the only answer! 

The 1911 census for Scotland will be out next year, so that might help you in some respect.

You should try to identify when Margaret DEVINE died - using Scotlands People - so that you will be able to match the family up in the later census.

In a way I hope that my reply is right though - don't like to think that there were lots of abusive orphanages around the county - those poor children!

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There are certainly lots of records and forum discussions on the internet about the Smyllum - some "survivors" have been exchanging photos and other information, so they might be able to help you too.

Kind regards, Arranroots  ;)
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Re: Scottish Orphanage
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 18 July 10 21:16 BST (UK) »
Margaret Devine died in 1904 of liver cancer at the age of 45 years (although this is written as 42 years on the death certificate).  I have traced many things connected with the family.  It was the orphanage which was the 'wall' I hit.

Thanks again for your help, it certainly is an 'eye-opener'.  I will look at the site mentioned and hope to find out more about that hell hole.

Bye for now.
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Re: Scottish Orphanage
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 July 10 21:19 BST (UK) »
I received the letter from Bishop Devine in 1995 confirming that the orphanage was closed in 1970 and that any information contained was no longer available due to a fire.

Very intersting indeed (!)

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Re: Scottish Orphanage
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 18 July 10 22:21 BST (UK) »


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Re: Scottish Orphanage
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 18 July 10 23:08 BST (UK) »
Maybe not of much help, but my hubby is from Lanark , he thinks there were two fires at Smyllum but cannot remember the dates, it's an age thing.
Sorry possibly not relevent and we now live abroad, so not in the position to check with family quickly.
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Re: Scottish Orphanage
« Reply #14 on: Monday 19 July 10 10:22 BST (UK) »
Thank you Monica.
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Re: Scottish Orphanage
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 04 September 10 13:35 BST (UK) »
Hello Lady Frances.
Smyllum Park in Lanark was run by the Daughters of Charity. My brothers and I were sent there and lived there in the late 1950s and early 60s.
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Re: Scottish Orphanage
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 05 September 10 12:08 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your reply.  My grandmother would have been there in the early 1900's so no doubt things would have changed.  Were you happy there?  How long did you stay?

Frances

I must say that everyone who has helped me with this enquiry has certainly been very helpful. Thanks to you all.
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Re: Scottish Orphanage
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 05 September 10 13:21 BST (UK) »
From this link it looks like things were just as bad in the 60's. It also alludes to documentary evidence so some records must have survived.

http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/opinions/2006CSOH93.html