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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 06 September 17 12:56 BST (UK) »
It would also be fantastic to be able to get a copy of his death record to see what it says on there. Do you have a contact for this? I also have the feeling that he might have been born later than 1880. Just from what the newspaper articles say. However can not be sure.

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 06 September 17 13:58 BST (UK) »
Death reg from my resource
EXELL John Stanley  79 years  Status Married   Relative Hilda M EXELL - widow
7 Nov 1958
Residence Largs Bay  Death Place Adelaide   Ade H 883/7064
Symbol H indicates he died in a hospital or place of care.  I would suggest with the Registration District Ade = Adelaide, it was more than likely the Royal Adelaide Hospital.

The information on the death certificate may not assist you at all and is only as good as the knowledge of the informant.

Information on SA death certs in 1958
    Date and Place of Death
    Name
    Sex
    Age
    Occupation
    Usual Residence
    Birthplace
    Length of Residence in Commonwealth
    Age at Marriage
    Number of Issue Living and Deceased
    Cause of Death
    Place of Death
    Informant
    Place of Burial

John is buried at West Terrace Cemetery and his surname is incorrect on their database. Noted as EXCELL.   I have notified the cemetery of the error.  Should take a few days for the correction to appear on their website.
http://www.aca.sa.gov.au/Records

Why do you think he was born post 1880?

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 06 September 17 16:09 BST (UK) »
Hi Cando,

Thank you for your information.

oh ok so SA death certificates are unlike Vic ones (they seem to have a lot of info)

The only reason I have that thought on his year of birth is from reading all the Police Gazette. They seem to come up with his year of birth being 1885. But of course that could be wrong.

I have what I feel is every search to find his birth record but unfortunately I have come up with nothing.

I just had a look at the cemetery record and just noticed that under the site record tab it has
Nunn, William John   Date of Death 10/06/1935.

It might be a coincidence but just going to put it out there... could this be his father?


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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #30 on: Friday 08 September 17 00:44 BST (UK) »
William John  NUNN was a 55 year old married man from Poochera. Born c1880.  Possibly a public grave.

The details in the Police Gazettes would have been supplied by the Court and the origin of the information would have been his second wife.

As his first marriage was in 1903 I doubt he was born c1885.

EXCELL John Stanley
OWEN Ellen Beatrice    
At Stanley 16 Mar 1903  Reg#1176

and first child

EXELL Venetia Alice
Father John Stanley EXELL  Mother Ellen Beatrice OWENS
29 May 1903
At Stanley  Reg#4213

The birth registration attached below shows his age as 23 years.

Is this him noted as Stanley EXELL at Stanley in 1904
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article64665477

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #31 on: Friday 08 September 17 01:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Cando,

Thank you for the information. I didn't think William John Nunn was his father but just put it out there (you never know haha)

On the birth certificate do you know what it says under johns DOB?

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #32 on: Friday 08 September 17 01:54 BST (UK) »
Marriage certificate, Stanley, Tasmania, 1903..........what names do you see for witnesses?

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #33 on: Friday 08 September 17 02:02 BST (UK) »
Also while I'm thinking about it Venetia Alice's death notice in the newspaper was under the surname 'Cattlemole' I wasn't able to find a marriage for her under that name. Are you able to confirm that she remarried?

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #34 on: Friday 08 September 17 02:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Cando,

Thank you for the information. I didn't think William John Nunn was his father but just put it out there (you never know haha)

On the birth certificate do you know what it says under johns DOB?


It doesn't have a date of birth.   Father  John Stanley EXELL   Aged 23  Born Victoria.

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #35 on: Friday 08 September 17 02:35 BST (UK) »
It is more than likely Venetia Alice HOCKEY nee EXELL married a CATTEMOLE post 1942, limit of marriage indexes in Victoria.

You would need to purchase her death certificate to find at what age she married for the second time.

Venetia Alice HOCKEY was last enrolled to vote on the 1954 electoral roll so the marriage would be post that year.

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