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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 05 August 10 05:28 BST (UK) »
This, I think would be the remarriage of the wife (ex) in WA

EXELL, MARY J to TURNER ARTHUR  in PERTH reg. 810 in 1930.

This given name of the woman matches the female party in the separation proceedings in the WA paper (above).

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 05 August 10 05:33 BST (UK) »


Good work Sue  ;D

Link given by Sue
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/28166003?searchTerm="john stanley exell"
mentions wife Jane/Mary Jane. Court proceeding in Western Australia
but mentions that John Stanley Exell lives in South Australia

So is there is another marriage for John Stanley between Ellen 1903 and Hillergarde 1936  ???

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 05 August 10 05:40 BST (UK) »
Can't see one in South Australia.

I can't see a marriage, death or other children for a John William Exell/Excell/Exel/Excel either in South Australia apart from the death of a 10 year old daughter way back in 1848, which seems unlikely to be the one we're looking for.   :-\
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 05 August 10 05:40 BST (UK) »
Thank-you all for your replies,

We think he did marry again in 1914 in SA or ended up living there at some stage. We don't know if there was a third marriage. Unfortunately his marriage to Ellen lists his parents names as unknown which possibly suggests he was adopted or orphaned? Does anyone know how adoptions and orphanges worked in that era i.e 1880 ish?

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 05 August 10 05:45 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage in Victoria

EXELL John Stanley
GREGORY Jean Mary
1914  reg #5541R

Electoral roll
1919 Victoria
154 Wattle Street Bendigo
John Stanley Exell - Tailor
Mary Jane Exell - Home Duties

I wonder if Mary Jane and Jean Mary are the same person  ::)

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 05 August 10 05:50 BST (UK) »
Birth in Tasmania

EXELL   Ventia Alice
Father:     John Stanley Exell
Mother:    Ellen Beatrice
1903
Registration Place:    Stanley, Tasmania
Reg#2616

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 05 August 10 05:52 BST (UK) »
Hi alelex,
Just wondering what else you already know to save unnecessary work from the helpers.

Always best to paint the fullest picture you can right at the outset ;)

Adoptions in the 1880's were generally informal, with there being no strict legal criteria in most states.
  Often the arrangemants were made within families or friendship circles.

His father is clearly listed for his SA marriage. JOHN WILLIAM EXELL

The man you have found RAYLEN is the husband of MARY JANE.

It is just possible to discern the words "WANDERING TAILOR" in the descrption of his occupation in one of the West Australian newspaper summaries about the case, which is not yet digitised.  This can be seen on the website I have given
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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 05 August 10 06:07 BST (UK) »
Sorry i am a first timer here. Wasn't sure what sort of information to give (and how correct it was)

I know that he had 3 children with Ellen Owens - Venetia, Leslie & Aubrey and i know about those children and their children. I don't know any of the details after he left/divorced Ellen i.e what happened to him after leaving Ellen. I was also trying to track his father and mother and their mothers and fathers etc..

All i know from his marriage certificate and one of his son's birth certificate is that in 1903 he was 23, parents listed as " unknown Exell" and he was a tailor. He lists as being born in Brighton, Victoria however i have been unable to find anything to clarify this. I was wondering given that information if he could have been orphaned as there was an orphanage in Brighton?

Sorry again if i have wasted anybody's time.

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Re: John Stanley EXELL
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 05 August 10 07:18 BST (UK) »
Hi alelex,
Don't concern yourself with the misunderstanding. We all learn as we go.  Best to tell the whole story, even if you are not sure if all bits are relevant. 

Wondering now whether anyone can see the birth in Brighton you mention.

I do notice a clustering of the EXELL name at Bendigo where JOHN STANLEY and  MARY JANE were living in 1919. There are a number by the name on the Cemetery database.


http://www.bencemtrust.com.au/search.asp?search=true&sSurname=exell&sInitial=&sYear=

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