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George "Digger" Stanley- Boxer (Romany Gypsy Family)
« on: Wednesday 18 August 10 10:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Everyone,

Im investigating my Fathers side of the family now....

'George "Digger" Stanley' was my Great Great Uncle...Theres a bit about him on the net, but mostly his boxing career...

Like his birth and death date: 28 February 1876 – 7 March 1919
Born: Kingston-upon-Thames, Surrey, England.


I recall as a child being told stories about him from my great Aunts and my Nan.

Now this is where Im stuck....

My connection is as follows:

Great Grandmother/father Aida Stanley (nee Lane) and husband Bert Stanley had 13 kids...

One of their children Sylvie Stanley is my Nan....Her son Buster is my father. (Im Karla).

Now im lost, cos Im sure either Digger Stanley was my ggrandfathers father or uncle or even brother?....

I have attached a picture of my Great Grandfather Bert...(died 28th March 1961 aged 57) and his gravestone in which my great grandmother (fat mum) Aida Stanley is also buried. (died 7th march 1993 aged 88)

Both were Romany Gypsy decent, like all the rest in the family.

Any help would be appreciated.
McAuley - (Mothers side of the family in Ireland)

Stanley - (Fathers side of the family In London/Kent)

Anthony (Fathers side of the family in England)

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Re: George "Digger" Stanley- Boxer (Romany Gypsy Family)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 11:08 BST (UK) »
And so the search begins...

Looks like he was my Great Great Great Uncle...

The information I found so far...

George Digger Stanley and Annetta Chesterman were married in 1902 in London.
McAuley - (Mothers side of the family in Ireland)

Stanley - (Fathers side of the family In London/Kent)

Anthony (Fathers side of the family in England)

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Re: George "Digger" Stanley- Boxer (Romany Gypsy Family)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 11:27 BST (UK) »
OK im trying to figure this all out....

Parents:  George Stanley & wife?

Had children: George 'Digger' Stanley, Daylia Rebecca Stanley, Sarah Stanley, Frederick.

I think Daylia was my great great great grandmother...


I also found out this:

George 'Digger' Stanley had a wife called 'Cinderella' Stanley and they had 3 daughters:
Daylia, Sarah, Rebecca.


As seen in chart below...


George 'Digger' Stanley

Mitcham Common Tent Mitcham, Surrey,

George STANLEY Head  34 Hawker Kingston, Surrey
Cinderella STANLEY Wife 33  Gipsy Hill, Surrey
Daylia STANLEY  Daughter  8  Hadlow, Kent
Sarah STANLEY Daughter  5  Norwood, Surrey
Rebecca STANLEY Daughter  1 Mitcham, Surrey,
McAuley - (Mothers side of the family in Ireland)

Stanley - (Fathers side of the family In London/Kent)

Anthony (Fathers side of the family in England)

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Re: George "Digger" Stanley- Boxer (Romany Gypsy Family)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 18 August 10 13:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

George Stanley was aged 20 on his marriage at St Clement Nottinghill Kensington on 25th December 1902, a bachelor and a labourer of 133 St Ann's Road. His father was George Stanley a labourer. Annette Elizabeth Chesterman was aged 19, a spinster. Her occupation was waiter and her address 55 Stoneleigh Street. Her father was James Chesterman, a coachman.
George signed the register making his mark. The witnesses were Arthur Chesterman and Elizabeth Vincent.
The Stanley couple had a daughter baptised at All Saints Nottinghill on 3rd January 1904 Norah Elizabeth. Father's occupation on this baptism was athlete. The address was 28 Clifton Gardens.


1891 census RG12 52 folio 107
15A Marinefield Road Fulham
George Stanley 54 Head Married Itinerant Tinker Kingston Surrey
Cinderella Stanley 48 Wife Married Norwood Surrey
Dahlia Rose 21 Daughter Married Hadlow Kent
Sarah Stanley 16 Daughter Ginger Beer Bottler Norwood Surrey
Rebecca Stanley 11 Daughter Mitcham Surrey
George Stanley 10 Son Kingston Surrey
Edward Stanley 5 Son Woodford Essex
William Rose 38 Son-in-law Married Gas Stoker Fulham London
Jasper Rose 9/12 Grandson Fulham London

Can't see the family on the 1901 census but there is this entry. It might be Cinderalla with the wrong age and her Rose grandchildren??

1901 census RG12 43 folio 130
14 Hunt Street Hammersmith
Cinderella Standley 40 Head Married Flower Seller Battersea London
Jesper Standley 11 Son Fulham London
William Standley 8 Son Fulham London
Jenny Standley 6 Daughter Fulham London
Beckie Standley 2 Son Fulham London


Because of copyright reasons searches on the 1911 census cannot be offered on Rootschat. You will have to search that census yourself.

http://www.1911census.co.uk/

The free search facility shows George and Annette somewhere in the Brentford area with Cinderella and two children George and Daisy.

Births Mar 1904 STANLEY  Norah Elizabeth    Fulham  1a 235   
Deaths Mar 1905   Stanley  Norah Elizabeth  1  Brentford  3a 40

Births Dec 1906  Stanley  George Albert V    Fulham  1a 321

Births Sep 1909   STANLEY  Daisy Kathleen     Fulham  1a 287


Deaths Sep 1913  Stanley  Cinderella  61  Fulham  1a 231


1871 census RG10 853 folio 28
Marefleets Rents Mitcham Surrey
George Stanley 21 Head Married Chair bottomer Kingston Surrey
Cinderella Stanley 20 Wife Married Battersea Surrey
Frederick Stanley 9 months Mitcham Surrey 

Marriages Dec 1875 
COOPER  Cinderella    Croydon  2a 417   
STANLEY  George     Croydon  2a 417

Their marriage certificate will give you information on their fathers. Though this might be George's family.

1861 census RG9 373 folio 22
Gypsies, Caravans and Tents, Palmers Field Wandsworth
Dever? Stanley 38 Head Married Basket maker Putney Surrey
Naomi Stanley 34 Wife Married Basket maker's wife High Wycombe Bucks
Moses Stanley 18 Son Basket maker Southwark Surrey
John Stanley 15 Son Basket maker Hadley Kent
George Stanley 12 Son Basket Maker Kingston Surrey
Sarah Stanley 9 Daughter Southwark Surrey
Rebecca Stanley 7 Daughter Clapham Surrey
John Dever Stanley 1 Son Norwood Surrey
William Stanley 9 Months Norwood Surrey

11th March 1849 All Saints, Kingston Upon Thames born 16th November 1848
George Stanley parents Diveris? and Naomi, Kingston, father's occupation basket maker

1851 census HO107 1563 folio 237
83 Ann Street St George Southwark
Diver Stanley 20 or 29?  Head Married Basket maker Putney Surrey
Neomi Stanley 22 Wife Married High Wickham Bucks
Sophia Stanley 9 Daughter Hastings Sussex
John Stanley 4 Son Hadlaw Kent
George Stanley 2 Son Kingston Surrey


27th February 1820 St Mary, Putney
Divrus Stanley parents Peter and Rebecca, Putney, father's occupation basket maker

 
The Travelling People board on Rootschat has some very knowledgeable Rootschatters who specialise in Romany families.
If you would like me to move your post to that board I can do that if you would like me to.


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Re: George "Digger" Stanley- Boxer (Romany Gypsy Family)
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 19 August 10 23:01 BST (UK) »
hi,
digger stanley is my grt grt grandfather, i've been trying to find out info about him for some time now for my nan but havent got very far, please could you help with this as you seem to know abit more than i do thanks   

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Re: George "Digger" Stanley- Boxer (Romany Gypsy Family)
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 November 10 10:04 GMT (UK) »
GRAND-DAUGHTER OF GEORGE "DIGGER" STANLEY. Hi my maiden name was Kay Stanley (now Horsnell). my Mother was Violet Linda Stanley (nee Godleman) and my Father was John Henry Stanley who also had the nickname of "Digger" was THE SON of George "Digger" Stanley and Alice (nee Davis). I have a half sister (same father) name Patricia (whose grandmother to becca56). My dad had a sister known as Biddy (I think her real name was Ada) and a half brother (same Mother) named Fred (shortened I think).  I remember my Aunt Ada when I was small always wearing black. She had a stall in Portobello Road W11. She lived in Lancaster Road as did we, but at opposite ends. We moved to Portobello Road when I was 11 (I'm now 54). I remember her son Black Harry and also my dad's cousin Sylvie Stanley. If I remember right her daughter and I went to the same school Avondale Road Primary School or Holland Park Comprehensive (she was either a year older or younger than me). My dad also went to Avondale  school but in his day it had a different name. I am at present researching my family tree and alot of what's written is conflicting but will get to the bottom of it eventually.

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Re: George "Digger" Stanley- Boxer (Romany Gypsy Family)
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 November 10 10:09 GMT (UK) »
GRAND-DAUGHTER OF GEORGE "DIGGER" STANLEY. Hi my maiden name was Kay Stanley (now Horsnell). my Father was John Henry Stanley who also had the nickname of "Digger" was THE SON of George "Digger" Stanley and Alice (nee Davis). My dad had a sister known as Biddy (I think her real name was Ada) and a half brother (same Mother) named Fred (shortened I think).  I remember my Aunt Ada when I was small always wearing black. She had a stall in Portobello Road W11. She lived in Lancaster Road as did we, but at opposite ends. We moved to Portobello Road when I was 11 (I'm now 54). I remember her son Black Harry and also my dad's cousin Sylvie Stanley. If I remember right her daughter and I went to the same school Avondale Road Primary School or Holland Park Comprehensive (she was either a year older or younger than me). My dad also went to Avondale  school but in his day it had a different name. I am at present researching my family tree and alot of what's written is conflicting but will get to the bottom of it eventually. ???

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Re: George "Digger" Stanley- Boxer (Romany Gypsy Family)
« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 November 10 12:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have a Henry stanley in my tree married a counsey known as alice Gladwin her parents are Harriet cooper and George gladwin who lived on mitcham common... So would anyone know about Henry? Is he related to Digger?

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Re: George "Digger" Stanley- Boxer (Romany Gypsy Family)
« Reply #8 on: Monday 08 November 10 20:24 GMT (UK) »
He Jew, sorry not at the moment but I have only been digging records for one week. If I do come accross him I'll leave a message, regards