occupation in army

[wilcoxon]

 This is transcribed on Ancestry as -25 B D (Army Off) ((Liverpool

 But I think there is more but I can`t make it out.
1881 Brecon Barracks

[old rowley]

can not work the first word but the next two appear to be Master Sgt followed by 25BD

OR

[Darwin]

Looks like Quarter Master Sergt to me

[kathb]

Hi, agree Quarter Master Sergeant with Army written above
Regards
Kathb

[km1971]

25th Brigade Depot was based in Brecon. It comprised the 1st and 2nd Battalions of the 24th (2nd Wawickshire) Regiment plus the Militia and Volunteers from the counties of Cardigan, Radnor, Brecon and Monmouth. In July 1881 the 24th Foot became the South Wales Borderers.

There is a good chance that he served with the 24th Foot prior to joining the Brigade Depot. Also in July 1881 the 25BD became the 24th Regimental District, with most 'brigade' staff transferring across. You should check the service records on Findmypast.

The entry has been later indexed as 'Army'. QMS was an OR (other rank) not an officer. The officers were called Quarter Master.

The 24th Foot were the ones at Rorkes Drift/Isandlwana - 'Zulu'/'Zulu Dawn'. Fans of the first film will know that Stanley Baker renamed them to SWB two years early.

Ken

[wilcoxon]

Thank you so much Ken, I don`t subsribe to FindMyPast, would Ancestry have them, and if so - which records should I search.

[km1971]

...I don`t subsribe to FindMyPast, would Ancestry have them, and if so - which records should I search.

No, only FindMyPast - http://www.findmypast.co.uk/chelsea-pensioners-service-records-collection-search-start.action - there is one born c1844 in Liverpool.

Ken

[wilcoxon]

It seems he carried on working.
I`m sure this is the same man, but he seems to have added Edgar to his name.,
There is no record of a birth, but there is a William Hamlin.
1881
Barracks. Watton .Brecon Wales
William Hamlen 36   25 BD (Army Off )    b Liverpool
E H wife    34b Warley Essex.
PA son 4   b Dover Kent
BW son 2   b Brecon


1891
4 Canterbury Terrace , Little Ilford, Romford, Essex.
William E Hamelin 45 Foreman   b Liverpool
Ellen H 32 b Brentwood Essex
Phillip A 14 Junior Clerk b Dover
Bertie W   12 b Brecon
Adelaide E 9 b “
Violet W G 4 b “

1901
The Citadel, St Andrew, Plymouth
William Edgar Hamelin 56 Canteen steward b St Johns, Liverpool
Ellen Harriet 38 Assistant steward b Brentwood Essex
Violet Gertude Winifred 16 b Brecon
Cecil Edgar Augustus 8 b London
Ethel Florence Constance Dorcas 5 b London

[km1971]

Army pensions were less than army pay so all pensioners had to carry on working.

I think you need to amend his occupation for the 1881 census before you forget to 'Quarter Master Sergeant - 25th Brigade Depot'.

Ken