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unable to dechiper German handwriting - Completed
« on: Saturday 21 August 10 11:20 BST (UK) »
The snippet image I attach comes from a 1904 ship's
( Brandenburg) manifest from Bremen to New York. 

 Please help  decipher the relationship and name of the person who was listed as the sponsor.

Thank you,
moli

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Re: unable to dechiper German handwriting
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 21 August 10 15:07 BST (UK) »


Hello Moi

How about?

Dr.   ?  Tom  MacKenzie

11 Hayers Rd,  (or Hagoss Rd?) 

town?

Fife

Relationship?

Cheers

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Re: unable to dechiper German handwriting
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 21 August 10 15:12 BST (UK) »
Trenton, N.J. (New Jersey)
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: unable to dechiper German handwriting
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 21 August 10 15:14 BST (UK) »


Hello Aghadowey

'Trenton' looks spot on!

Cheers

Danchaslyn
MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa


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Re: unable to dechiper German handwriting
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 22 August 10 11:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Moli!

I think the address is (11?) MAYERS COURT, Scranton, New Jersey, as this address does exist.

I think the first name is either Jan or Igor,

and maybe the surname is something like KLETSACKY ??

Are any of these likely from what you already know?

Cheers,  Ann
Devir/Dever/Diver, O'Donnell, Sweeney, Doherty/Dogherty/Docherty( DON), Flanagan (Newry, DOW), Hennessy (Ballybunion, KER), Nally (Ballinacarrick,WEM) Meer (Paradise, Ballynagard, CLA) McKinnon, McLeod, Beaton, McLennan, (Skye, inc. Raasay) Christie (Dunblane & Glasgow) Wilson, Swan, Orr, (Airdrie)  Marshall (Burnley LAN/Stockport CHS) Burcham, Chamberlain, Crisp, Cone, Hewitt, Everard, Williamson, Jermy, Wade (NFK/SFK) Bell (CUL) Baglee & var. (DUR)

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Re: unable to dechiper German handwriting
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 22 August 10 11:04 BST (UK) »
Perhaps if you could given us the passenger's name, shop and date of arrival we could look at Ellis Island record.
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: unable to dechiper German handwriting
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 22 August 10 16:56 BST (UK) »
Aghadowney, according to information on Ellis Island, Stephania SOKOLOWSKI arrived in the USA on the Brandenburg from Bremen on April 11, 1904. She was single and 16 years of age. She travelled with Josef and Sophia Sokolowski. Their place of origin was Wolki.  The relationship of the three Sokolowski to the person who was their contact address in the USA was stated as: cousin, brother in law.

It is this contact person and address that has been giving me problems. ( see the image attached to the initial post of this message thread).

I think that Trenton is the correct city as I’ve managed to track Stephania ( Stella as she called herself ) as a married woman in Trenton,  firstly in the 1910 census  until her death, in Trenton, in 1978. Thanks, Ann, for the stab at Scranton which I won’t rule out. Mayers Court (or Hayers) is what jumped out at me, too.

Danchaslyn, thanks for getting things going with Dr.   ?  Tom MacKenzie but the Slavonic name that annmck suggests is more in keeping with the ethnicity of the people/ person with whom I am dealing. I have been trying out variations on KLETSACKY but without much success, thus far. 

I would love to know Stephania’s sponsor to carry my research a step forward – by going backwards.

Thanks,
moli



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Re: unable to dechiper German handwriting
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 22 August 10 17:01 BST (UK) »
There's a Mayers Court in Trenton- see Google Maps.

Is the relative's name Stanslaw perhaps?
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: unable to dechiper German handwriting
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 22 August 10 17:16 BST (UK) »


Hello Moli

Upon the basis of what you've said, I'll now offer "Igor" instead of Tom, which was one of my original thoughts.

Good luck

Danchaslyn
MOE,   Norway, Swaziland, and Zululand, South Africa
JORGENSON, Hole, Ringerike, Buskurud, Norway
AITKEN,  Scotland, England, India, Island of St Helena, South Africa
LOBB,  India and London
WALSH,  India and England
SHORT,  Yorkshire, England, Island of St Helena
BATEMAN,  Island of St Helena, U.S.A.
YUILL,  U.S.A.
FIRTH,  Yorkshire, Engand
LIPTROT, various counties of England
SMITH,  various counties of England
LYNCH,  Yorkshire, England, Rhodesia and South Africa