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Another German record(maybe in Latin)!
« on: Sunday 22 August 10 19:29 BST (UK) »
Here is what I believe to be the marriage or engagement of Hermann Belke and Clara Valenthorne in 1694. The record is  in 2 parts.  Any help in translating this would be appreciated.
Thank you!
Belken/ Linnemann/Levermann/ Molitor- Affeln, Germany
Thomas & Rablin- Cornwall, England
Pendleton  & Hammer- Lancashire, England
Cross-  Murray- Brady-Murphy & O'Connell--Ireland
Gerlach- Eichsfled, Germany
 Rielly/Riley- County Monaghan, Ireland
Darcy- Ireland
Stoeber/Staver- & Gabel--- Germany
Madison/Matteson and McKinley

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Re: Another German record(maybe in Latin)!
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 August 10 23:07 BST (UK) »
Yes, Latin it is, from the odd recognisable word - sorry I can't offer more, the writing is way beyond me.
                     Best of luck,
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Re: Another German record(maybe in Latin)!
« Reply #2 on: Monday 23 August 10 00:10 BST (UK) »
thanks, Pinot! Hope someone can get a few facts from it!
Belken/ Linnemann/Levermann/ Molitor- Affeln, Germany
Thomas & Rablin- Cornwall, England
Pendleton  & Hammer- Lancashire, England
Cross-  Murray- Brady-Murphy & O'Connell--Ireland
Gerlach- Eichsfled, Germany
 Rielly/Riley- County Monaghan, Ireland
Darcy- Ireland
Stoeber/Staver- & Gabel--- Germany
Madison/Matteson and McKinley

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Re: Another German record(maybe in Latin)!
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 August 10 08:06 BST (UK) »
I would say marriage - "matrimonium"
Syner alias Taylor from Broseley and Benthall

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Re: Another German record(maybe in Latin)!
« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 August 10 13:38 BST (UK) »
Oh! How I wish these were type written!

Thanks! Darlene
Belken/ Linnemann/Levermann/ Molitor- Affeln, Germany
Thomas & Rablin- Cornwall, England
Pendleton  & Hammer- Lancashire, England
Cross-  Murray- Brady-Murphy & O'Connell--Ireland
Gerlach- Eichsfled, Germany
 Rielly/Riley- County Monaghan, Ireland
Darcy- Ireland
Stoeber/Staver- & Gabel--- Germany
Madison/Matteson and McKinley

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Re: Another German record(maybe in Latin)!
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 24 August 10 08:38 BST (UK) »
Hi,

It is difficult because written in Latin and in German :

15. Aug(ust) 94 sponsalia contracta
(?) honestus Herman Beelken de Nieder=
helden et Claram Valentorns
(civi)bunt praevius matrimonium domi
Beelken vivent oeconomiae
parentibus praerunt domi resignent
Pater Beelken habet proles in vivi(s?)
6. puellas duos filios : da..t unius pu=
ella ein halben Braut schatz etiam filio
id... (?) Kuhe 1 rindt 4 Schaffe 1m(?)
.ogg 1 m(?) große ex m(?) haber
attendernisch. auch die
außrei.ung nach gelegenheit deß
Hauses, unndt standt in welchem der ein=
wohner ist ... einige werden außziehen.
Die Schwehren(?) solten daß Hauses bestethun
so ... beim Brautigam wohnen
werden denen doch freystehen sollen bey
anders zu denen : sponsa non (pellet) ... domo
in ... m...  sponsa 30 (?) sponsus ...
... X habebit : ordinal... sponsus plura
Testes : Hans Beelk ioannes filius Herm(an)
Kremer Hanß Bender (Jost filius ?) Maria
Valenthorn mater sponsi


Augustine
Miller, Millner, Mullaney, Sailer, Schweinler - New York
Müller - Baden, Germany
Mueller - Cleveland Ohio
Müller/Mueller - Bernergebiet, Switzerland

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Re: Another German record(maybe in Latin)!
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 24 August 10 13:45 BST (UK) »
Thank you Augustine!

I didn't know this one was going to be so hard!

thanks again! Darlene
Belken/ Linnemann/Levermann/ Molitor- Affeln, Germany
Thomas & Rablin- Cornwall, England
Pendleton  & Hammer- Lancashire, England
Cross-  Murray- Brady-Murphy & O'Connell--Ireland
Gerlach- Eichsfled, Germany
 Rielly/Riley- County Monaghan, Ireland
Darcy- Ireland
Stoeber/Staver- & Gabel--- Germany
Madison/Matteson and McKinley

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Re: Another German record(maybe in Latin)!
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 06 January 18 12:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Newbie here but I believe the word Brautigam means bridegroom in german but is also a surname.

Jim Brautigam