Thomas Roberts, Fron, Llandwrog

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Roger thanks, it's a possibility, though I cant find a Nellie Roberts in 1901
On the 1911, it says Thomas and his wife Anne have been married 18 years, had three children,
 two of whom have died...there weren't any children with them in 1901 !!
OOOh heck, just as I solve one problem, up comes another.

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Could the age have been transcribed incorrectly(by a decade!)?There is a birth of a Nellie Roberts registered in Llandwrog in 1904 on www.northwalesbmd.org.uk

Regards
Roger

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That's a thought....................

[Mabel Bagshawe]

I've been rooting around on the Welsh Newspaper archive site - a couple of mentions of Thomas Roberts of Tegfan - mostly in connection with Cesarea chapel apart rom a court case between John Robert Roberts, Glandwr Stores, Llanberis who sued Thomas Roberts, Tegfan, Upper Llandwrog, and John H. Griffith, Ffridd Llwyd, Upper Llandwrog for £1 15s owed for rent for Bryn Fferam Slate Quarry between March and July 1915.

For a retail shop owner he doesn't come up much in the papers, unlike my lot of publicans in Bethesda

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There are two deaths in the name of Nellie Roberts in Llandwrog 1912(North WalesBMD),one of which probably matches with a FreeBMD record of a 7 year old in Caernarfon district.

Regards
Roger

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Mabel,
Interesting, thanks for finding that; wonder why a butcher would be renting a slate quarry?

Roger,
More thanks to you......if only we could find baptism for the 1904 Nellie Roberts.

Glenys

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I haven't got any further with this family.

  Wondered if this house "Tegfan" is still there, also shop premises next door??
Glenys

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There is a Tegfan,Upper Llandwrog at postcode LL54 7BD.If you have Google Earth you could perhaps try to find it(postcodes are an acceptable search term)
I think it is likely that Nellie's birth registration is under Ellen or Eleanor,for which Nellie is often the diminutive.
There is an Ellen Roberts registrtation in 1904 in Llandwrog on the www.northwalesbmd.org.uk site-ref. 1904 CAERB/3/45/25,and one  for an Eleanor ref. 1904 CAERB3/44/96.Unfortunately there are no mothers maiden name to help. There is also an Ellen Ann.
A phone enquiry to the local registry offiice may help identify if any are correct.

Regards
Roger

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Taken a while..........thanks to 1921 census I have found Thomas Roberts born 1867 Henllan, Denbighshire, with wife Annie born 1866 Llanwnda, together with employee, Evan Thomas born  1901, butcher employed by Thomas Roberts, living Tegfan, Upper Llandwrog.

1939 finds Thomas Roberts, widowed,living 1 Meillionydd, Upper Llandwrog.

Whilst Evan Thomas is now living Tegfan, Upper Llandwrog, butcher, married to Maggie, son Ieuan born 1935, with three children redacted.

So a partial success; doesn't look like any of his three children survived.  It would have been so good to have been in contact with his descendants and tell them of Thomas Roberts' friendship with my taid, which lasted even when my taid left Caernarvonshire.

Glenys