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partial brick wall
« on: Friday 27 August 10 13:35 BST (UK) »
Can some one please help I have a Frederick J Radcliffe married to a Mary McDowell in 1917@ Clooneyhall Mary came from  Cuthbert St. They apparently had 3 children Martha whom I have traced but The other two Helen(Ella) & Freda I believe also born in Londonderry/Derry I have tried various LDS sites without success.Mary also had a sister called martha and two brothers James Gourley and Thomas Gourley according to 1911 cenus
gibson {b/bridge-dromore } radcliffe [belfast-banbridge }
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Re: partial brick wall
« Reply #1 on: Friday 27 August 10 15:55 BST (UK) »
The civil registration index only covers up to 1921 for Northern Ireland counties so if the other 2 children were born after that date they won't be listed. More recent details will not be available online.
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Re: partial brick wall
« Reply #2 on: Friday 19 May 17 12:04 BST (UK) »
Hello, I may be able to help, so Mary McDowell married Frederick Radcliffe, They had 3 Kids, then Fred Left, Mary then married John Taylor. I have a John who being the oldest Drowned, Jim, Joe who stays in Londonderry, William moved to Bradford. Ethill, Ella who moved to Cornwall since passed, Margaret, Barbara who is in a nursing home in Londonderry, Mattie/Martha and Elizabeth/Lily moved to Cornwall.

Do you have Mary Radcliffes Date of birth?

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Re: partial brick wall
« Reply #3 on: Monday 12 June 17 20:18 BST (UK) »
i understand Mary ( McDowell ) Radcliffe born  9 February 1894 1 Donegall St Londonderry  What is your connection to this post
gibson {b/bridge-dromore } radcliffe [belfast-banbridge }
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Re: partial brick wall
« Reply #4 on: Monday 12 June 17 20:46 BST (UK) »
Hi...... Mary Cannot have been born on that date, she was married age 34 to John Taylor, after Fredrick Radcliffe, John was 26.

Fredrick Radcliffe went away to America apparently, later he was pronounced dead.

I am friends with Mary's biological daughter. She is 92.


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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 08:22 BST (UK) »
The 1917 marriage gives Mary McDowell as age 19- so born c1898
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1917/09736/5532674.pdf

However, she's 16 years old in 1911- parents John & Mary:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Londonderry_No__5_Urban/Cuthbert_Street/606231

Here's a link to her 1894 birth-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1894/02272/1853568.pdf

Father's occupation (currier) same as on 1917 marriage and mother's maiden name (Gourley) matches that of step siblings in 1911 census.
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 16:54 BST (UK) »
Aghadowey thanks for your input which confirms what I have .As far as I;m aware fred radcliffe and mary have only one daughter left alive from that marriage and I have been corresponding with her for a few years also joe taylor from john and mary's marriage is still alive as a child I remember being  in john and mary's house in fountain street with my grandfather.Also fred radcliffe brother joe married a derry girl jessie mitchell in 7 Oct 1919 in derry  and had a child called Bessie born 5 Dec 1920 but she has seemed to disappeared of the records
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McCluskey & leckey {armagh }

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Re: partial brick wall
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 18:08 BST (UK) »
Northern Ireland records only go up to 1921 for Northern Ireland counties on Irish Genealogy site (with births only up to 1916) but GRONI will show marriages (up to 75 years old) and deaths (up to 50 years old) so it would be worth going through the available records for a marriage or death.
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Re: partial brick wall
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 13 June 17 18:11 BST (UK) »
Tbh I'm not really interested anymore.

Thanks though