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John Evans, First Hereford Regiment
« on: Tuesday 31 August 10 12:12 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find out any information regarding John Evans.  On the war memorial in Abbey Cwmhir Church (Radnorshire) it states that he died in the first world war and was serving in the First Herefordshire Regiment.

I have found him on the 1911 Census where it states that he was 25 and born in Church Stretton, Shropshire.  So he would have been born in 1886 (+/-1)

He married Alice Ann George on 13th April 1910 in Abbey Cwmhir Church (Radnorshire).  His fathers name was Thomas

I have asked everyone in the family but no one knows where he died or where he is buried.

Any help would be appreciated

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Re: John Evans, First Hereford Regiment
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 13:14 BST (UK) »
Commonwealth Was Graves has 2 J Evans listed as killed with the Herefordshire Regt (both in 1st Battalion)

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=297739

http://www.cwgc.org/search/casualty_details.aspx?casualty=275040

Soldiers died in the Great War (SDGW) gives their details as :

Name: John Evans
Birth Place: Canon Pyon, Herefords
Residence: Bishop's Stone, Herefords
Death Date: 23 Jul 1918
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Hereford
Rank: A/L/Corporal
Regiment: Herefordshire Regiment
Battalion: 1/1st Battalion
Number: 235997
Type of Casualty: Killed in action


Name: Joseph Evans
Birth Place: All Saints, Hereford
Death Date: 1 Aug 1918
Death Location: France & Flanders
Enlistment Location: Hereford
Rank: Private
Regiment: Herefordshire Regiment
Battalion: 1/1st Battalion
Number: 236222
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Re: John Evans, First Hereford Regiment
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 31 August 10 13:21 BST (UK) »
Medal card for John Evans gives his original number as 2960 and then later 235997.

Entered Gallipoli 9/8/1915. Awarded the 1915 Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/medals.asp

No service record or pension info appears to be online.
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Re: John Evans, First Hereford Regiment
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 01 September 10 09:02 BST (UK) »
Thanks johnny_doyle

This information is a great help.  I just need to find him on the 1901 census now.

Regards

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Re: John Evans, First Hereford Regiment
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 26 October 11 13:55 BST (UK) »
Hi,

The John Evans discussed here as being born in Canon Pyon is my great uncle.  He died near Soissons.  It is not the same person as the one you are looking for, as he never married.

Sorry 

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Re: John Evans, First Hereford Regiment
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 27 October 11 08:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Puttock,

welcome to Rootschat.

Do you have any more info re your John Evans that might help with this conundrum e.g. any links to Abbey Cwmhir?

The CWGC entry shows the father as W Evans but radnor1 has indicated that the John Evan's from Church Stretton/Abbey Cwmhir is the son of a Thomas.

JD


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Re: John Evans, First Hereford Regiment
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 27 October 11 21:12 BST (UK) »
Radnor1,

the memorial page for Abbey  Cwmhir mentions that no info is known re Abraham Davies Wozencroft.

http://www.roll-of-honour.com/Radnorshire/Abbeycwmhir.html


His surname appears to have been Wozencraft and he died in 1916 serving with the Canadians rather than the RWF

http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/cef/001042-119.01-e.php?&id_nbr=322884&interval=20&&PHPSESSID=abgq2prnih62iuggkj43pt0ee7


The family are on the various census records as farming at Mynyddlys. Father William, mother Jane and a number of siblings.



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Doyle - Enniscorthy
McCullen - Coastguards from Drogheda, Co Louth
Shepley - Macclesfield and Wheelock
Clarke - Macclesfield
McDermott - Macclesfield and Dublin
Pender - Dublin
O'Brien - Dublin and Galbally

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Re: John Evans, First Hereford Regiment
« Reply #7 on: Monday 31 October 11 09:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

John Evans who is listed on CWGC born at Canon Pyon has no links to Radnorshire.  In 1901 Census he is living in Canon Pyon with his parents, and in 1911 census is living in Bishopstone (Weobley) still with his parents William & Charlotte.  I know he is my gt uncle as we have his medals, death plaque and scroll.  His name and enlistment number match.

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Re: John Evans, First Hereford Regiment
« Reply #8 on: Monday 31 October 11 20:03 GMT (UK) »
thanks for the update Puttock. Your John Evans is the only 1st Hereford casualty that I can see on CWGC/SDGW suggesting that the Abbey Cwmhir memorial tablet is wrong re unit (as is the case with Wozencraft) or that he was in 1st Herefords but transferred to another unit (there are 2 in this category I can find but they appear to have survived the war).
Niland/Neiland/Neilan/Nyland - Dublin
Doyle - Enniscorthy
McCullen - Coastguards from Drogheda, Co Louth
Shepley - Macclesfield and Wheelock
Clarke - Macclesfield
McDermott - Macclesfield and Dublin
Pender - Dublin
O'Brien - Dublin and Galbally