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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #27 on: Monday 04 April 11 14:37 BST (UK) »
I spotted these in the Dissenters Graveyard MI`s. It`s on Rhosddu Road, Wrexham.
All on same stone. Spelling variations are as they are written in book.

George Lowe Venables of Broughton in Bromfield  died October 4 1776 aged 43
Mary Kirk inf d/o Richard and Ellen Kirk of Broughton died October 8 1782
Ellen Kyrke nee Venables died April 8 1827 aged 84 w/o Richard Kirk
Richard Kyrke of Gwersyllt Hill died April 13 1839 aged 92.


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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #28 on: Monday 04 April 11 21:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks again, wilcoxon

The information from this monumental inscription is consistent with other sources such as the family bible (for death of infant Mary) and inscription under the south window at Holy Trinity Gwersyllt (for years of death and ages of Richard and Ellen).

George Lowe VENABLES was an elder brother of Ellen VENABLES.
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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #29 on: Monday 04 April 11 21:31 BST (UK) »
Interesting  about the Church, I can see it from my house, about 3 minutes walk away  :)
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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 05 April 11 09:14 BST (UK) »
I spotted these in the Dissenters Graveyard MI`s. It`s on Rhosddu Road, Wrexham.
All on same stone. Spelling variations are as they are written in book.


Transcription of the headstone inscription is likely to be accurate.

Richard seems to have consistently used KIRK but both his ancestors and his descendants seem to have preferred KYRKE. The inscription for daughter Mary was probably supervised by him but he wouldn't have had a say in the spelling of his surname on the headstone (the most senior member of the family was then son James KYRKE, solicitor and he probably decided). As for wife Ellen, my guess is that the inscription for her on the headstone waited until her husband died...
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Re: Kyrkes
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 09 April 11 01:40 BST (UK) »
A Venables KYRKE of Chard Somerset would be Colonel Arthur Venables KYRKE (1855-1921). He was the brother of the Richard Venables KYRKE who was also fishing, and building villas.

Do you have information about marriage and children? And what was his occupation in UK?

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Re: Kyrkes of Chard
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 09 April 11 09:23 BST (UK) »
Arthur Venables KYRKE married Annie Upham DOMMETT, registered Q2 1880 at Axminster, Devon, England. The children: Henry Vernon Venables (1881-1933, soldier), Gerald Venables (1882-1932, international rugby player), Muriel Venables (1884-1887), Dora Violet Vernon (1887-), Harold Venables (1890-1956) and Hylda Marjorie Venables (1891-1931).
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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #33 on: Saturday 09 April 11 16:54 BST (UK) »
Do you have date for birth and ded for his wife Annie Upham DOMMETT?

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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #34 on: Saturday 09 April 11 18:05 BST (UK) »

I can`t find an announcment of a birth, but here are some more marriages for the Dommett family.

Birth Mar qtr 1851 Annie Upham Dommett . Chard.

Wrexham Advertiser June 12 1880.
Marriage. Kyrke-Dommett,
June 5th at the parish Church, Seaton, Devon, Arthur Venables younger son of Richard Venables  Kyrke Esq. of Nantyffrith in the county of Flint to  Annie Upham younger daughter of the late William Dommett Esq of Chard Somerset. No cards.

The Pall Mall Gazette (London, England), Monday, February 19, 1866
Marriage. 8th int.
At St Mary`s Chard, Somerset  Mr William H eldest son of Mr W D Whitehead  Moorfield, Kersal, Manchester to Julia E eldest daughter of Mr W Dommett solicitor Chard.


Trewman's Exeter Flying Post or Plymouth and Cornish
Wednesday, June 27, 1866;
Marriage.
June 21 at Kirsall,  Manchester .
Charles William Dommett esq, solicitor, only son of William Dommett Esq, solicitor Chard to Mary Frances eldest daughter of W D Whitehead Esq, Kersall, Manchester.

 
The Essex Standard, and General Advertiser for the Eastern Counties
 Friday, September 07, 1866; Issue 1864.
Marriage
August 30th at Chard  Church , Somerset  Henry Coles Soper Esq, eldest son of Henry Soper Esq. of Little Waltham Lodge in this county to Clara Claxton second daughter of William Dommett Esq of Chard.
Another paper has an address for Henry Soper, 31 Spital Sq.London.

The Bristol Mercury and Daily Post Saturday, December 7, 1878
Death.
November 30th at Chard, William Dommett solicitor aged 64.

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Re: Kyrkes at Gwersyllt
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 10 April 11 14:30 BST (UK) »
Do you have date for birth and death for his wife Annie Upham DOMMETT?

Arthur Venables KYRKE and his wife Annie Upham are buried at Chard St Mary; the inscription has both of them dying 28 November 1921. The dates of their deaths is confirmed in the calendars of probate.
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