Kyrkes at Gwersyllt

[wilcoxon]

These are extracts from what I found in the paper.

I thought  this Edward Smith  in the article may have been linked to Charles Roe Smith clockmaker ,  your  Edward was born about 1809 ,  so looking at the date of the 1835 article then the Bangor Edward Smith would have to have been about 26.

North Wales Chronicle (Bangor, Wales), April 21, 1835
Notice to creditors, Charles Roe Smith of Bangor , gunmaker and clockmaker  etc etc ----  persons who stand indebted to pay amount of debts to Edward Smith , Flour merchant Bangor.

May 10, 1836
A John Williams has moved in to the premises in Castle Street, Bangor , previously occupied by Charles Roe Smith.

Just a thought 

[wilcoxon]

Mentions of a brewery in Devon Street,

October 24, 1851
Cart for sale , Islington Brewery 21 Devon St,

June 9, 1865
George Carrington aged 28 fell into a tub of scalding water at Devon St brewery , his employer was a Mr Duck. George died.

March 16, 1870
Devon St, Brewery. mentioned in advert

December 30, 1881
Devon Street,  Brewery.mentioned in advert

[Adnepos_Iacobi]

...North Wales Chronicle (Bangor, Wales), April 21, 1835
Notice to creditors, Charles Roe Smith of Bangor, gunmaker and clockmaker  etc etc ----  persons who stand indebted to pay amount of debts to Edward Smith , Flour merchant Bangor...

Thanks again wilcoxon

I'm not sure this Charles Roe SMITH/Edward SMITH combination is the one I am interested in but it is certainly worth following up.

Preliminary searching has not come up with anything on clockmaking or flour trading in Bangor, And I haven't found a family link either to Mr Duck the brewer or Mr Williams ?clockmaker? of Bangor.

I'm not sure how to progress this so I'll try a post on the Caernarfonshire message board.

[wilcoxon]

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[wilcoxon]

Charles ROE was born in Castleton, Derbyshire, not too far from the birthplace of Thomas KIRK (1747-1839). He seems to be a celebrity in the mining world. See

http://www.derbyscc.org.uk/alderley/history_biographies.php#cr

Roe married three times to Elizabeth Langford (m.1743), Mary Stockdale (m.1752) and Rachel Harriott (m.1766). He died at Macclesfield in 1781 and was buried in Macclesfield where a monument was erected in Christ Church.[/i]

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The Blackburn Standard  Wednesday, February 08, 1837

On the 30th ult Mr Charles Roe of Macclesfield aged 51 years , an honest ,upright, guileless man . He was the eldest son of the late Joseph Roe Esq of Congleton and the grandson of the late Charles Roe Esq founder of Christchurch

[Suecantknit]

Is there anyone  who can help me find out about my Great Grandfather Jeremiah Chaffers-welsh I know he married a Kyrke (Helena Baker).

[wilcoxon]

if you read the whole of this thread, look at page 6. « Reply #58 on: Monday 09 May 11
There are some details about him starting there,

[davidqueneherve]

Hello

James Arnold KYRKE was born in Avranches (Manche) on May 31st 1844.

Du 1er juin 1844

Acte de naissance de James Arnold Kyrke, né à Avranches hier à 9 heures du matin, fils de Mr Richard Venables Kyrke, rentier, âgé de 51 ans, né en Angleterre demeurant à Avranches, et de dame Jane Frances Horseman, son épouse, âgée de 36 ans, née en Angleterre, demeurant à Avranches.

sur la déclaration & la représentation de l'enfant à nous faite par pour l'absence du père par la dame Véronique Agathe  femme Eudes, sage femme, qui a fait l'accouchement, âgée de 51 ans, domiciliée à Avranches, en présence de M.M. John POE, rentier, âgé de 65 ans, & Robert KNAPTON, rentier, âgé de 45 ans, tous deux demeurants à Avranches.

It's KYRKE James Arnold  in the index. He seems to be the only child named KYRKE born in Avranches between 1843 and 1852.

http://www.archives-manche.fr/ark:/57115/a011288085767tl5YTO/064160b504

Frame 203/374 - number 110

[davidqueneherve]

No birth KYRKE found in Granville same period 1843-1852

http://www.archives-manche.fr/ark:/57115/a011288085769NBMgZj/d77a6ad31c

Frame 479/749