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Juler Family
« on: Tuesday 14 September 10 22:54 BST (UK) »
Hi Everybody,

I have traced my family's tree back to 1797 to my great great great grandfather William Juler born in Norfolk.

I've also discovered his burial in the Burnham Westgate Church cementry in 1863.

However, I have this nagging feeling that my family were not originally from Norfolk, but were settlers from overseas, possibly Dutch Jews.

Is there anybody else who is tracing this family tree who may help me to fnd my roots.

I look forward to hearing from anybody who may help me to piece together my ancestry.

Take care.


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Re: Juler Family
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 September 10 08:45 BST (UK) »
Hiya Jackie and welcome to rootschat...on www.geneanet.org which covers a lot of foreign countries they have the following.....
1719 in Norwich Cathedral  is the earliest record in England
1624 is the earliest record and that is in Kurzdorf,Switzerland
for the record there are NO Juler in Holland / Netherlands on that site
Ropeby , Norwich and Stalham in Norfolk seem to be where most Juler are in England ,though there are a few around 1900 in Durham....anyway, I would look at Belgium or Switzerland for your early settlers and not Holland ...even French Heugenots who came to England ...there is someone on Rootschat who traces French Heugenots , so maybe someone can redirect you ....good luck....I`ll do a `search` and see....allan ;)
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http://www.barcham.org.uk/page45.html
may have some info for you...states that John Juler was a watchmaker /clockmaker...makes it look more like Swiss origins.allan :)
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Re: Juler Family
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 January 18 10:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi jackiej
I'm not sure if replying to a 7year old post is going to produce any results, but here goes:

I am a researcher at the Munnings Museum in Dedham Essex, the former home of the artist Sir Alfred Munnings. One of the pictures in our collection is a large portrait painted in 1909 entitled 'Cassie Jeweller'. We are fairly sure the young lady portrayed is CATHERINE DRUMMOND JULER. born 1885 in Norwich.  I have worked out her parentage, siblings, her marriage in London in 1914 and her death in 1980. I believe her ancestors were Hugenots.

Ouside of these bare bones I am looking for more in depth information as to exactly who she was and what she was doing before her marriage and if anyone has any photos of her at any point during her life.

Perhaps this is a longshot, but if you have something that might throw some light on her, I would grateful for any info you may have.

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Re: Juler Family
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 January 18 22:04 GMT (UK) »
Not sure about in depth information but we can give you census information.

In the 1901 census Catherine is a boot machinist living with her parents Edward and Eliza and six siblings.  The address is 22, Caernarvon Road, Heigham, Norwich, Norfolk

Piece number   1846
Folio   68
Page   29

The surname has been transcribed as Julier.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire


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Re: Juler Family
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 08:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi. Thanks for your reply. At some point she also became an artist's model. However she doesn't appear in the 1911 census anywhere. But in 1914, giving an address in London, she marries a man twice her age who had only be widowed 3 months earlier. Somewhere there is a story about her to be unearthed.
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Re: Juler Family
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 January 18 09:11 GMT (UK) »
Did you look to see if she was living at the 1914 address in the 1911 census?

Or is the address the same as her husband's in the 1911 - Sutton Lodge Ipswich Road, Norwich?

He has an unusual  middle name doesn't he - Frederick Wilemer

This looks to be his birth registration

SKIPPER, FREDERICK  WILEMER     WILEMER     
GRO Reference: 1859  S Quarter in MITFORD & LAUNDITCH  Volume 04B  Page 268

Looks like he was illegitimate and around 25/26 years older than Catherine.  Have I found the right man?  Sidetracking a bit here!
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Juler Family
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 January 18 09:56 GMT (UK) »
She was not living at the 1914 address - 24 Cambridge Terrace, Paddington - in the 1911 census. The place seems to have been a kind of lodging house.

Re the husband - yes you have the right guy. he was a Norwich architect and the brother of the more famous architect George Skipper - known as 'the Gaudi of Norwich'.

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Re: Juler Family
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 January 18 15:24 GMT (UK) »
You have most of this, but there is a little more .
On her marriage in 1911 her sister Emily Courtney  Juler is a witness, she is at home with her parents in 1911. The other witness is Gertrude Kebble. In 1911 Gertude Kebble 49 is a vergers wife living at 28 Star Street, Edgeware, she was previously Curtis.
In 1911 Catherine`s   father was a Brewers Traveller, but she describes him as a gentleman at her marriage .
Is she gilding the lily a bit.  ???
Marriage bond.
Catherine is of the Parish of St Michaels, Star St ,  Paddington.  Usual abode for 15 days.
Frederick is of Lakenham , Norwich,
On the marriage entry her address is 24 Cambridge Terrace
Frederick  is of 15 Ipswich Road, Norwich.
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Re: Juler Family
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 January 18 15:59 GMT (UK) »
 I can`t edit my post but the marriage was in 1914.
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