Samuel James Theodore THICKNESS & Emily Sarah Euphemia SIEVERS

[Ebch]

Don't know if this will fit in?
Manchester Times Dec 29 1888
SIEVERS-THOMAS On 22 inst. at Sydney, NSW, Edward Johnstone eldest son of A J Sievers Esq., of that city to Louise Vernon youngest daughter of J W Thomas Esq., of Best House Prestwich Manchester.

[Ebch]

And more
Manchester Times Nov 9 1899 - On Oct 11 at Sydney, the wife of E J Sievers (Lucy Vernon Thomes) of a daughter
then
Freeman's Journal (A Dublin paper) Nov 17 1790
Sievers - November 7 at her parents residence, Best House, Prestwich, the wife of E J Sievers Esq., of Sydney of a son.

[pavane]

Edward Sievers was a member of the same family. His father, Andrew J Sievers, was a son of John William Sievers, Peter's younger brother. Andrew and his wife emigrated independently of Emily. Edward became Land-Valuer General for NSW. His son Noel was a brillant scholar who was killed in action in WWI

[pavane]

I don't understand a date of 1790 - should that be 1890? Otherwise this is not related.

[Ebch]

Of course it should be 1890 

[pavane]

Ruth - are you a relative of Augusta Thicknesse? Another member of the family in Australia has compiled a 45 page tree of Augusta's family, which may be of interest.

[pavane]

Here is Emily's whole family.
Firstly, Hermann Ernst Sievers

1 Johann Conradt Sievers b c. 1740? Gross Mimmelage (nr Osnabrück)
+ (11/05/1764) Anna Elisabeth Adelheit Jödekens  ~19-9-1734

2 Anna Catharina Adelheit Sievers ~ 21/7/1764 died 7 JUL 1839 in Rüsfort 
      Living descendants

2 Helena Margaretha Sievers ~8/5/66 d 22-11-1855 Badbergen
      Living descendants

2 Johann Arend Conrad Sievers

2 Hermann Ernst Sievers ~9/5/1771 – 10/1829

Secondly, descendants of Hermann and Petronella
They moved to London around 1803, and then Hermann, Petronella and John William moved to Boulogne in 1825.

1 Hermann Ernst Sievers b. Badbergen nr Osnabrück 9/5/1771 d 1829 London
+ (February 20th, 1795 Amsterdam) Petronella Richier (10 March 1776  – June 5th 1849 Shoreditch)

2.1 Elizabeth Wilhelmina Sievers,  Amsterdam 31 May 1795  d Rotterdam 19 Dec 1871

2.2  Ernest (aka Edward) George Frederick Sievers c1799 – 1850
 + (1830 Deptford) Arabella Wilson/Willson (sister of Eliza Willson) c.1808-1883

2.3 Peter Sievers b c1800 Hanover (British Subject) d 10th Nov 1861 aged 60 
+ (1825, London) Emily Vernon Barlow Burney, born c. 1806 Liverpool died 3/11/1868

3 Emily Sarah Euphemia Sievers
Christening:  22 AUG 1826   Saint Dunstan, Stepney, London, England
Emigrated New South Wales 1846
+ (West Ham, 1845) Samuel James Theodore THICKNESS.

3 Peter Frederick McDermott Sievers 1828
Went to USA, living descendants in Kentucky

3 John Thomas Sievers  1830-1831

3 Ronella Aldina Sievers 1834-1839

3 John Nicholas Sievers  1837   emigrated to Australia 1862, ship Caribbean - never disembarked?

3 Francina Eliza Sievers  1838 (Milliner 1861) d 1869
+ ( bef 1861) Henry Thomas, Docks clerk / commercial clerk

3 Ronella Aldina Emma  Sievers 1841
+ 1860 Henry George Garner b1839 St George in the East

3 Herman Ernst Beatson Sievers  1846-1895
 + 1869  Harriet Passfield b Waltham, Essex 12/12/1851
      emigrated to Canada c. 1882
   
2.4 John William Sievers b. 1807 (or maybe 1804?)  London  d. 1877  Lancs
+ (1) c.1830 Georgiana Aylwin or Alboin nee Johnstone, separated c.1837

3 Ronella Georgiana Sievers 1831 Bolougne-sur-Mer  d1853

3 Andrew Johnson (or Johnstone) Sievers  Oct 4th, 1832
+ Sarah Budden chrs 18 Nov 1831 : Saint James, Poole, Dorset, England d. 1884 Emigrated to Australia 1850’s, several children

+(2) (q1 1838) Eliza Wilson/Willson  b. 1821 Sevenoaks  (Sister of Arabella Willson, Ernest’s wife) (bigamous marriage?)      

2.5 Caroline Charlotte Sievers b 27 Dec 1813 Chrs 30/9/1814  St. Olave Hart Street  London
+ 1864 Rotterdam  Willem Pieter KOUWENHOVEN. No issue

[pavane]

Clarification: the marriage of Eliza Willson was to John William Sievers, of course  (Not Andrew)

[rutht22000]

Hi Pavane

thanks for all the info.

I am loosely related to Emily Sievers (Thickness) via a marriage.  My great great grandmother's brother Thomas Fletcher married Elizabeth Wilhelmina Jessie Sievers, Emily's cousin

I've got them pretty much okay backwards, but it was just finding Emily forwards that was causing issue!