Help with the Sewell family

[Socialite2018]

It could be that this is how Annie's stay in the hospital was explained to family.  It may or may not be entirely correct but who knows?

[Lynne Murray]

I am happy to announced that I have found the death details of Thomas Murray born 10 June 1879 who married Annie Sewell 0n 13th June 1897. It has taken me nearly 10 years to find this info.  Thomas Murray dies on 16th January 1919 on board Gen Hosp Ship Abbassia, Egypt.  Unfortunately he died of Apendicitis after surviving WWI.  He was in the British Army a Private in 1st Garrison Btn Essex Reg Number 22105.  He was a part of the EEF (Egyption Expeditionary Force)  His effects were distributed to his Widow Annie Murray and Daughter Catherine - very interesting that his son Thomas William Murray (born 1912) was not listed??? THOUGHTS would this be because he is under 18 years (?) or does this possibly give the thought that he MAY NOT be recognised as his son (Thomas is on his birth certificate as father).  Thomas Snrs mother is noted ON MILITARY RECORDS as Mrs Elizabeth Caroline (reversed) Murray of 72 Ferndale Road South Tottenham (Correct and verified via family history and Voters Register).   I am not a full member of Ancestry.com so cant get into any further details which is a shame so therefore I cannot find when he enlisted.     Well at least now we know how and when my GG Grandad died and he can be respectfully be remembered. Now to find His father James Murray - I have a lot of his mothers details. Any help would be appreciated.

[Bobby Murray]

I have no idea but Rose is living with Grace at 43 Noel Road (Fred's Wife) and being a murray is confusing me......

My grandparents were John Royden Murray and Rose Murray nee Thomas. As I do not know a great deal about our family history, it would be great if you could help me gain some knowledge?

[Lynne Murray]

John Roydon Murray.

Hello Bobby, Yes these two have been a real mystery for us. Do you known their parents names and maybe we can connect with the missing links we have.  Lynne.  Lets hope we are related.

[Bobby Murray]

Hello Lynne and thanks for your response. My granddads parents, I believe were Joseph Murray d.o.b poss 1866 married to Charlotte Sophia Sanderson.

[Bobby Murray]

Hello again Lynne. I think the d.o.b for Joseph Murray is wrong 1866. He may have been born 1891 with his father possibly a Joseph C Murray born 1866. Hope this helps.

[Ladyhawk]

My grandparents were John Royden Murray and Rose Murray nee Thomas.

As I do not know a great deal about our family history, it would be great if you could help me gain some knowledge?

My granddads parents, I believe were Joseph Murray d.o.b poss 1866 married to Charlotte Sophia Sanderson.

Do you have the birth certificate for John confirming his parents names or his marriage certificate confirming fathers name?

MURRAY, JOHN  ROYDEN     mmn SANDERSON 
1909  D Quarter in LONDON CITY  Volume 01C  Page 6

1911 census has this John Murray born 1910 London City parents
Martin & Charlotte Murray, he has three older siblings
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWG2-9DX

From GRO indexes All have mmn Sanderson

MURRAY, MARTIN  JAMES  mmn   SANDERSON 
1902  J Quarter in HOLBORN  Volume 01B  Page 702

MURRAY, ARTHUR  CHARLES     mmn SANDERSON 
1904  D Quarter in LONDON CITY  Volume 01C  Page 8

MURRAY, JOSEPH  FRANCIS     SANDERSON 
1907  J Quarter in LONDON CITY  Volume 01C  Page 7

This is appears to be Martin & Charlotte’s marriage entry

Marriages Jun 1901   
BALLARD    Amy Rosina     Bethnal G.    1c   381   
Clements    George        Bethnal Green    1c   381    
MURRAY    Martin        Bethnal G.    1c   381    
SANDERSON    Charlotte     Bethnal G    1c   381   

Year   1930 & 1931 Electoral Register
Polling district or place   St Sepulchre

Address 3 Union Place EC 1
Arthur Charles Murray
John Royden Murray
Charlotte Murray
Martin James Murray
Ada & John THOMAS (same address 1930) and Ada Thomas (1931)

Death of Martin Snr.

Martin MURRAY Age 54
Mar 1918 District   London City Volume   1C Page   16

[Bobby Murray]

Lynne, I’m sorry all I have is an old scribbled piece of paper from one of my cousins. It does mention Rose had a brother called John. So that fits the 3 union place address. Thanks to you I now know, my great grandfather was Martin Murray and my grandad John Royden Murray had three older brothers.

Anything else you may find grateful to you. Thank you.

[Ladyhawk]

1923 Electoral address 8 Union Place
Charlotte Murray
Joseph Francis Sanderson
Elizabeth Sanderson

I think Joseph Francis is Charlotte’s brother and they are together on 1891 census

James Sanderson   Head   Married Bookbinder London, Middlesex
Mary   Sanderson   Wife   Married London, Middlesex
Charlotte   Sanderson   Daughter Single Bookfolder   London, Middlesex
Joseph Sanderson Son   Single Farrier London, Middlesex
James Sanderson   Son London, Middlesex
Herbert Sanderson Son   London, Middlesex
William Sanderson Son London, Middlesex
Arthur Sanderson   Son   London, Middlesex
John   Sanderson   Son London, Middlesex

The birth entries from GRO indexes

SANDERSON, CHARLOTTE  SOPHIA   mmn QUICK
1872  M Quarter in LONDON CITY  Volume 01C  Page 25   

SANDERSON, JOSEPH  FRANCIS   mmn QUICK
1875  M Quarter in LONDON CITY  Volume 01C  Page 26   

Marriage entry of parents

Mar 1874               
Sanderson   James   Holborn   1b   747
Quick Mary      Holborn   1b   747

Will take another look tomorrow