Parish registers for Stratford Essex

[marcol]

I have a George WHITE born c 1821 in Stratford / Stratford Green / West Ham (according to different censuses).

I'm finding it difficult to work out which baptism registers to search.  Was Stratford a parish in its own right?  Are the registers at the LMA?  (A search of Ancestry's recent digitisation of London parish registers did not give me anything.)

I think his father was John WHITE who in 1843 was still alive and described as a Licenced Victualler.  A John WHITE owned the Three Pigeons public house in Stratford Green in the 1820s and this might be the same man.  I cannot identify George or John with any certainty in the 1841 census.

Grateful for any help - would particularly like to know if Stratford parish registers (if there are any) have been published or are available online.  Thanks.

[Sharon01]

Hi,

Stratford is included in the Essex parish records.

This link could help.

http://seax.essexcc.gov.uk

Sharon

[kesannah]

The Parish Church for Stratford is St.Johns, which is in The Broadway.Stratford

[marcol]

Thanks - I did look on that site before I posted (and several others) ... most record office sites have a list of the parishes they cover and their register holdings, but I couldn't find one on the Essex RO site .... I tried their search engine and it would seem to indicate their baptism registers for Stratford only go back to 1834 ... ?

Is St. John's Stratford an ancient parish or a (relatively) modern one?  Was it a parish in 1821?  Or a chapelry of some other parish?    Thanks.

[Valda]

Hi

The East London Family History Society has a very useful webpage on East London and the parts of Essex that finally became part of Greater London in 1965, their churches and records

http://www.eolfhs.org.uk/parishmenu/index.html

e.g.

'Stratford Church (St. John) was erected in 1834, from the designs of Mr. Blore, on what was the village Green, at the parting of the roads to Romford and Leytonstone.....Originally a chapel-of-ease to West Ham, it was made a district church in 1844 and a parochial vicarage in 1868.'

So before 1834 Stratford parish was part of West Ham parish.


Regards

Valda

[Valda]

Hi


Though Essex RO hold the original parish registers for All Saints West Ham it is worth contacting the London borough of Newham Archives and Local Studies as they have I believe indexed the parish registers of some chuirches in their area.

http://www.newham.gov.uk/EntertainmentandLeisure/Libraries/LibraryReferenceServices/ArchivesAndLocalHistory/Servicesatthearchivesandlocalstudieslibrary.htm

Regards

Valda

[marcol]

Valda - you are a star (or rather "awesomeness on toast" as a young person of my acquaintance has a habit of saying  ) ...  I don't post to rootschat very often but you have usually come riding to my rescue.  That would explain why I couldn't find any registers pre-1834. Still not sure why West Ham parish registers aren't popping up on Ancestry's London digitisation: I thought they were taking a rather broad view of what constitutes London.

Incidentally, for posterity if anyone is searching for John WHITE, I found this: “DEATHS. June 16th, Mr. John White, of the Kent road, late of the Three Pigeons, Stratford Green, in his 64th year” (from The Essex Standard, 2 July, 1847, issue 863).  Ancestry reveals that he was buried at Nunhead Cemetery.  I still think he’s mine – his movement from Essex to the Old Kent Road area exactly matches the movement of George, who I think was his son.

Thanks again.

[Valda]

Hi


Love the 'awesomeness on toast' - thankyou


Hopefully the London and Middlesex board on Rootschat can help explain


Re: ***LMA/Ancestry "Missing" Parishes***


http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,430983.30.html


The link is to the final page of the topic specifically on Essex/London parishes - the first page details other parishes that will not be included in the Ancestry data set and why (they have to be original deposited registers held at the London Metropolitan Archives or Guildhall Library) and page 2 gives information on Bishops Transcripts - copies made yearly and sent to the local Bishop some of which the LMA holds - this might be your understanding of the 'broad view of what constitutes London' (see the topic on the Surrey board for instance for BTs and Ancestry)


LONDON DIGITALISATION PROGRAMME AND SURREY PARISH RECORDS

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,438088.0.html


Ancestry has entered into a financial deal with the LMA and the Guildhall Library to index and put up online images of the original parish registers held by these repositories. No other record office which holds original parish registers of any churches now in the Greater London area is as yet involved.



Regards

Valda

[bafni]

I have a George WHITE born c 1821 in Stratford / Stratford Green / West Ham (according to different censuses).

I'm finding it difficult to work out which baptism registers to search.  Was Stratford a parish in its own right?  Are the registers at the LMA?  (A search of Ancestry's recent digitisation of London parish registers did not give me anything.)

I think his father was John WHITE who in 1843 was still alive and described as a Licenced Victualler.  A John WHITE owned the Three Pigeons public house in Stratford Green in the 1820s and this might be the same man.  I cannot identify George or John with any certainty in the 1841 census.

Grateful for any help - would particularly like to know if Stratford parish registers (if there are any) have been published or are available online.  Thanks.

If you got to http://www.stjohnse15.co.uk/history/registers.html there are links to all the registers at SEAX covering what is now Stratford parish. In 1821 West Ham was still a single parish, so any registers will be with All Saints, http://tinyurl.com/ca785ka at SEAX.

hth