John KNIGHT 1645 (Cornwall)

[ridder72]

I descend from John Knight 1645-1699 born in Roche, Cornwall.
John married a Jane ?
His father was William and Katherine Knight.
My query is that I have read many other peoples family trees and they all say that John was the son of Richard Knight who married Agnes Coffley/Sarah Rogers.
If Richard moved to America in 1635 with Agnes and subquently had other children there why is it that John is born in Roche, Cornwall, UK.
There are too many descrepencies, notably that Richard marries 3 times in the states and all wives were still alive when he married the next. Was Richard a mormon?
Anyone out there who shares the same frustration?

Craig

[Thamesite2017]

Hi Craig
have you talked with the OPC for Roche
http://www.freewebs.com/arthur70/

If you def have the birth in Roche and Richard is in US, well there must be a mistake in the other trees surely

Have you been able to use other sources to confirm such as wills?
Its always the danger when you get this far back..but surely different continents is too much,
Does your John Knight die in Cornwall or does he go to America as well
Bye
althea

[JKKnight]

Hi Craig
Did you ever gat any answers to John Knight's ancestry.  I am stuck on the same questions that you have in that Richard Knight does not appear to be John's father as John was not born in America. Let me know if you got any other answers.

Jo

[ridder72]

Hi Jo
Unfortunately, I got no further insight on John Knight. I'm desperately interested in how the name "Knight" came to be. Were they actual nobility at some point in time, or simply associated via adopting the surname under a "Knighted" baron etc??

Craig

[KGarrad]

Probably similar to your username?

Ridder is Dutch for Knight

[ridder72]

Yeah I know that
I meant the family lineage origins not the "name" perse.
Do you have anything? Where do you fit in?

[KGarrad]

I'm just a RootsChatter member, with an interest in Genealogy.
No links to Knight (in whatever language!).

I lived in Utrecht for 16 years - hence my (limited) knowledge of Dutch.

[JKKnight]

Hi Craig

If I have any luck in getting past this block, I will let you know.

Jo

[KGarrad]

From Ancestry on name origins:

English: status name from Middle English knyghte ‘knight’, Old English cniht ‘boy’, ‘youth’, ‘serving lad’. This word was used as a personal name before the Norman Conquest, and the surname may in part reflect a survival of this. It is also possible that in a few cases it represents a survival of the Old English sense into Middle English, as an occupational name for a domestic servant. In most cases, however, it clearly comes from the more exalted sense that the word achieved in the Middle Ages. In the feudal system introduced by the Normans the word was applied at first to a tenant bound to serve his lord as a mounted soldier.