More Essex surnames

[jaq]

i couldnt find a Maria Perrin age 1 year or so,in chelmsford 1861.
These are from 1861 Dunmow PERRIN.there are a few close matches to the PERRIN surname, ie PERRY,PERRING etc, so is always worth checking those too.

PERRIN   ALFRED   19   1117/11   GDN   ESS   GREAT DUNMOW
PERRIN   SARAH   33   1117/11   GDN   ESS   GREAT DUNMOW
PERRIN   THOMAS   46   1117/11   GDN   ESS   GREAT DUNMOW
PERRING   ELIZABETH J   13 1118/61   HES   ESS   HATFIELD BROAD OAK
PERRING   HOCKLEY   34   1118/61   HES   ESS   LITTLE CANFIELD
PERRIN   ANN   23   1117/96   LDN   ESS   GREAT DUNMOW
PERRIN   JESSIE   11   m1117/96   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   MARY   60   1117/96   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   SAMUEL   20   1117/96   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   HANNAH   55   1117/98   LDN   ESS   FELSTED   
PERRIN   HANNAH   14   1117/98   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   JONAS   56   1117/98   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   MARY   24   1117/98   LDN   ESS   WEST HANNINGFIELD
PERRIN   SAMUEL   20   1117/98   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   WILLIE   18   1117/98   LDN   ESS   LITTLE DUNMOW
PERRIN   CHARLOTTE   20/1117   120   LCF   ESS   TAKELEY   
PERRIN   ELIZABETH   80/1117   120   LCF   ESS   GOOD EASTER
PERRIN   GEORGE   43   1117/120   LCF   ESS   LITTLE CANFIELD
PERRIN   GEORGE   10   1117/120   LCF   ESS   LITTLE EASTON
PERRIN   JOHN   50   1117/120   LCF   ESS   LITTLE CANFIELD
PERRIN   MARY   55   1117/121   LCF   ESS   GREAT DUNMOW
PERRIN   WILLIAM   58   1117/121   LCF   ESS   LITTLE CANFIELD

jaq

[julied]

Thanx heaps jaq, could I trouble you pls to see if you can find an Anne Perrin for me [don't know whether they are from the same family yet or not].  The only info I have on her is she married James Fewell in Moreton, Essex 20.04.1804 [he was chr 26.10.1783 Gt Waltham, son of William Fewell and Margaret Twinn].  
Cheers, Julie

[jaq]

thats a bit early for my resourses,she would have been Ann fewell in 1804 onwards and possibly not about on the 1851/61 census.[assuming she was 18-20 years old when she married]
i do have the PIGOTS 1839 TRADE DIRECTORY SE & EAST ANGLIA
if James had a trade, we might get lucky


jaq

[findem]

Hi Julie,
We share another name, Turner, I have only one generation at the moment, they were in Pattiswick 1799 to at least 1812.  The five children were baptised 1800 to 1812 but no Elizabeth, since the parent's names were William & Elizabeth there has to be an Elizabeth somewhere.  It may not help but when or if I find an Elizabeth I'll let you know.  I have a very strong lead for my William Turner at Lindsell which is two or three miles north of Gt Dunmow, when I check it out I'll look out for an Elizabeth.

Not sure if this will be any help but I have a research note that there appeared to be a lot of Turner activity around the time you are interested in at Elsenham, which is four or five miles northeast of Gt Dunmow.

[julied]

Hi Jaq and Findem, re the census records you sent Jaq.  You've got James age 38 and Elizabeth age 40 in the Writtle census.  This very well could be them as the ages fit the dates we have.  Are they at the same address and does it list their occupation in this census like the 1881 one does?  There is no Frederick [first child b 1861] listed but this could be because he was born after the census was done.  The Elizabeth listed in the Chelmsford census could be another possible at age 41 although you would think there would be a James listed as well.  This Elizabeth Turner is a bit of a puzzle as the only info I have on her came from the 1881 census.  Oh the joys of doing this!!!!
bye for now,  Julie

[jaq]

Julied, do you mean this lot?:
if so, i'll look on the actual census for further details and get back to you shortly.When the pc & folio are same,ie 1080/100, you can assume they were in same household or at least on the same sheet,therefore living close by.
FEWELL   CHARLOTTE   8   1080\100   CHJ  [Chignal St James ]
FEWELL   ELIZABETH   66   1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   ELIZABETH   40   1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   GEORGE   13                 1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   HENRY   11      1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   JAMES   38      1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   JAMES   1       1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   LUCY   5       1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   MARY   3       1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   SAMUEL   72                   1080\100   CHJ
FEWELL   WILLIAM   18                            1080\100   CHJ

[jaq]

no surprises:
RG9/1080/100
same household **
james fewell head age 38 agr lab
elizabeth wife age 40
william son agr lab
george son age 13
henry son age 11
charlotte dau age 8
lucy dau age 5
mary dau age 3
james     son age 1
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**apologies, i couldnt find the exact adress- is between OAK HALL/CHIGNALL Hall, enumerator [william barker]only gives names of public houses, halls & other larger buildings.but is in line with several buildings named Brick so it could be Brick road?

An earlier find,Thomas Fewell age 51 incidently,was a shoemaker RG9/1080/99 and his son Thomas G.Fewell was agr lab

hope this helps
jaq

[julied]

Hi Jaq, looking thru what details I have the dates match up for Elizabeth age 40, George age 13, James age 38 and Samuel age 72 who is the right age to be James' father.  Maybe it's just a coincidence.
Sorry Jaq, just saw your second message after I'd written the above.  Even tho some of the dates fit I don't think it is the right family as I only have James & Elizabeth with 3 children [so far] - Frederick b 1861, Agnes b 1867 & George b 1848 all Chignall St James.  The 13 year age gap between the first 2 children does seem rather odd for those times though so perhaps they all do belong.  Oh this is all so frustrating!!
Many thanks for all your help though, I really do appreciate it.
Cheers,
Julie

[jaq]

Frederick may have been born  just after the census [1861) and agnes wont show as she was b.1867!

george is about right age as are his parents
only a birth cert will confirm
as will a 1871 look-up will confirm [which i dont have...yet]

jaq