Hi JRM
Interesting family this one
Just some comments from what we have seen on this thread here by esdel (there are a few other posts on this family).
We have been discussing two different Thomas Nelsons.
Not sure how the Thomas Nelson who married Isabella Mary Sarah Craig in Hampstead, London on 22 Dec 1839 came to feature as family to Margaret Ferrie Nelson (although he ticks lots of boxes by occupation etc in connection to Margaret's husband to be). This Thomas, with his new wife Isabella Mary, show in the Cumberland censuses from 1841 after their marriage, with their ever growing family. With the info that has been found here and Steve's confirmation from his death cert, we know this Thomas was chr. in Dumfriesshire to parents Francis and Mary (Todd) in 1807 and died in Scotland in 1890 (esdel has mentioned the error on the title which should have read 1890 not 1880 for this Thomas).
Regarding Margaret Ferrie Nelson, from the 1861 and 1871 Scottish Censuses, she gives her birth place as Glasgow with a birth year c. 1832. The St Cuthberts Edinburgh marriage banns entry on 24 July 1853 (the style of these Parish entries for St Cuthberts was to include bride's father's name - many other parishes didn't at this time) gave her father's name as Thomas. The further entry in Glasgow on 28 July will either be a further reading of banns or the marriage entry itself. The two locations indicate the parishes where the groom/bride were resident at at the time of the marriage.
We have found a couple, Thomas Ne(i)lson and Margaret Ferrie who were married and having children in Glasgow in the early 1800s, including a son Thomas born in 1804 in Glasgow. It is this Thomas b. 1804 whom we are wondering if he has the father to Margaret Ferrie Nelson. Both Thomas Snr. and son Thomas look to have been fleshers by occupation. Thomas Snr. may have died in Glasgow in 1828 (there is an entry for him in the Wills & Testament section on Scotlands People to this effect). Son Thomas died in 1859 (there is also a Will & Testament entry for him in 1859 - looks like an Inventory) and there is a death cert which flst has seen to confirm his parents' names of Thomas and Margaret (Ferrie).
So, current thinking is that this Glasgow family may be Margaret's family. But you guys need more proof, at the very least (would be huge), an occupation for Margaret F Nelson's father or a Glasgow address that we can link back to the Glasgow Nelsons from the censuses. With all the research being carried out on this Bouch/Nelson line, has anyone actually looked at the images on line at Scotlands People for the banns/marriage in 1853? Certainly the Edinburgh one with the mention of father's name may also include an occupation for father/address (the St Cuthbert Parish Registers are particularly good). The Glasgow one may or may not (the problem with OPR entries
) and you won't know until you look at the image on line whether any details are included regarding Margaret's father.
I've checked the Scotsman newspaper for a marriage notice and can't see anything. Also the Glasgow Herald may have carried something, but there are gaps on line for that year, 1853, and it is the ones that we needed to have checked.
JRM, given that Elizabeth Bouch b. 1855 is your direct line, have you viewed her birth entry on Scotlands People? 1855 was the first year of official registration for Scotland and for one year only, the entries on the registers ran over two pages and included a wealth of extra info.
That's as far as we have got to date.....
Monica
PS: flst, great census finds on the pontial children for Thomas b. 1804 and wife Janet
The only thing that worries me is that marriage date for Thomas Nelson and Janet Bell of 1818 (with Thomas b. 1804). Perhaps another marriage to a different Janet?
....added...flst, sorry, you have confirmed Janet Bell from the 1859 death cert I would imagine!
