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JustKia's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« on: Tuesday 30 November 10 09:11 GMT (UK) »

Welcome to this weeks Scavenger Hunt, and it will either be solved in the first 30 minutes..........  or it will take most of the thread!!     Yep, it's one of those    ;D

Good Luck and Good Hunting

Barbara

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I think this one will be pretty easy for RootsChatters.
I have a John WINBUSH (or do I have 2?) who seems to suddenly change his place of birth.
He varies between Wimbush and Winbush, but that's not too odd.

The easiest way for me to do this is to list the facts I am sure of and the facts I am not so sure of.
John WINBUSH son of Edward John WINBUSH and Sarah STEPHENS
Born 16 Jan 1854 (thank the clerk who wrote it on the baptism entry).
GRO Birth Entry - John WINBUSH Q1 1854 London 1c 101
Baptised 12 Feb 1854 - St Ethelburga Bishopsgate, London

Census 1861 - RG09-228-F120-P10 - 58 Bishopsgate Street, Saint Ethelburga, London (with parents and siblings)

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Edward J WINBUSH - Head - Mar - 39 - Licensed Victualler - St Mary, Warwick
Sarah " - Wife - Mar - 33 - Bermondsey, London
Edward T " - son - 8 - scholar - St Ehtelburga, London
John " - son - 7 - " - "
Sarah " - daur - 5 - " - "
Joseph S " - son - 3 - " - "
William " - son - 2 - - "
Alfred " - son - 5mo - - "

Census 1871 - RG10-435-F18-P7 - Bishopgate Street West, St Ethelburga, London

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Edwd John WINBUSH - Head - Married - 48 - Licensed Victualler - Warwickshire, Warwick
Sarah " - wife - " - 43 - - Surrey, Bermondsey
Edwd Thos " - son - unm - 18 - apprentice to cook - Middx, London
John " - son - unm - 17 - artist student - "
Joseph S " - son - 13 - scholar - "
William " - son - 12 - " - "
Alfred " - son - 10 - " - "
Charles Stephens " - son - 8 - " - "
Helena V "- daughter - 4 - " - "
Plus barmen and servants

Census 1871 - RG10-3199-F51-P22 - Church Street, Warwick St Mary
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Sarah WINBUSH - daur - unm - 15 - scholar - City of London
Louisa Alexandra " - daur - unm - 6 - " - "
Plus a housekeeper & servant,  but no head of household

John's father, Edward, died near the end of Feb 1874 (buried Feb 28)
John's mother, Sarah, and his siblings (Sarah, William, Charles, Louisa and Helena) moved to Penge, Surrey by 1881

From here on I'm not 100% sure if I have the same John or if this is a different John.

I can not find John (or at least not one which I believe ties in here) in 1881

Census 1891 - RG12-124-F138-P38 - 42 Calthorpe Street, St Pancras

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John L WINBUSH - boarder - S - 37 - artist designs + illustrations sculp - Warwick

I know John (from the first part)'s father was originally from Warwick, but he (John) was living with his family in London at least until he was 17 so it's not as if he was born in London but grew up in Warwick and so maybe thought he was born there.
There's also the addition of the middle initial "L".
I know the occupation fits but art, horses and the church go hand in hand with the Wimbush/Winbush family.

Census 1901 - RG13-137-F134-P33 - 8 Fitzroy Street, St Pancras

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John WIMBUSH - Head - S - 49 - Artist (Painter) Sculp - Warwick

I'm sure this is the same John as in 1891, but is it the same John as in the first part?

I also have him in 1911 as John Lewis WINBUSH - living alone - 60. He gives his occupation as "painting artist" and the industry as "painting pictures", again birth place of Warwick. Living in Dartmouth.

GRO Death Entry - John WINBUSH Q1 1914 Totnes 5b 266 (age 60)

I have a note next to his death entry (but I am ashamed to say I did not write down the source) that he was buried as J L WIMBUSH.

John WIMBUSH, artist, was a friend of James McNeill Whistler and supplied the studio, chair and rug used in the painting "Arrangement in Grey and Black: The Artist's Mother", which is famous under it's colloquial name "Whistler's Mother" (Anna McNeill Whistler), an 1871 oil-on-canvas painting.
He was also apparently friends with Albert Ludovici, Claude Monet and Walter Sickert (suspected of being Jack the Ripper).

I have digital copies of 3 paintings by John Lewis WIMBUSH
An Opium Den at Lime Street - 60x40 oil-on-canvas
Toy Seller
Vegetable Seller


Is this one or two Johns?
Can John be found in 1881?
Is there any further information on his friendship with Whistler?
Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.
Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden
Lamb In Bolton and Ireland
Grundy In Bolton
Blackledge In Bolton
Osbaldeston  ?? ??
Barnett in Islington
Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton

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Re: JustKia's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 30 November 10 10:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi JustKia i vaguely remember a hunt for Winbush /Wimbush before can we have the link to the thread so we dont duplicate
Thanks  :)
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Re: JustKia's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 30 November 10 11:03 GMT (UK) »
In 1871 there is a John Wimbush 16 Clerk born Warwickshire living in Clerkenwell nephew to William Wimbush 30 also born Warwickshire RG10/390/63 Pg44 - could this be John L?

Jan ;)
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Re: JustKia's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 November 10 11:15 GMT (UK) »
Onley/Only/Olney In Islington.
Wallwork In Bolton and Walkden
Lamb In Bolton and Ireland
Grundy In Bolton
Blackledge In Bolton
Osbaldeston  ?? ??
Barnett in Islington
Binyon in Islington
Kitchen in Bolton
Parker in Bolton

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Re: JustKia's Scavenger Hunt...Everyone Welcome To Join In
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 November 10 11:28 GMT (UK) »
From Family Search

Baptism 4/9/1823 Edward John Winbush son of John and Sarah at St Mary Warwick.
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 30 November 10 11:39 GMT (UK) »
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Baptism 25/2/1855 John son of William and Emma St Mary Warwick.

I think William is the son of another William ( William and Catherine baptising children 1820s/1830s), but whether Willam  is the brother/ cousin  of Edward John I'm not sure.

Another baptismof a John Winbush but at Rugby Warwicks 27/5/1855 son of Mary.
Cross Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Jennings Steeple Claydon Bucks,  Steel Byfield Northants,  Rogers Northants,  Wheeler Oxon,  Roberts Oxon,  Bonham Oxon/ Middleton Cheney Northants,  Maycock Northants,  Abbott Northants , Newman Northants, Buckingham Bucks, Hart Warks, Newth Gloucs.

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 30 November 10 11:51 GMT (UK) »
Jan - that John is the illegitimate son of Mary WIMBUSH, he was born Rugby (another WIMBUSH line).

Toni - the SH from the summer was yet another different WIMBUSH line, but there were some fantastic results on that SH.

Barbara - thank you for posting up the link.

Jaywit - I've got Edward and Sarah covered from baptism - burial ;)

Edward is the son of John WINBUSH and Sarah HORTON (m 27 Jan 1820 Warwick).
WIMBUSH - Everywhere :: MARLOW/JECOCK/JUSTICE - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire/Oxfordshire :: SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/SPINK/PETCH/GOOCH/COCKSEDGE - Suffolk :: GARRETT/GIBBS/FEARN - Warwickshire :: DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) :: MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) :: TIGHE/TREACY - Cork

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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 30 November 10 11:52 GMT (UK) »
According to Art websites, the John L Winbush, artist died in 1904.  May be a typo and they have no biography for him, but ... :-\

Added; no death for him on Freebmd at that time though.
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 30 November 10 12:00 GMT (UK) »
John, son of William WINBUSH and Emma MALINS (m 15 Sep 1852 Warwick).
I do not have him on any census.

He would be 2nd cousin of John (son of Edward)
John WINBUSH = Elizabeth BROWN
Two of their sons were John and William.
John had a son, Edward, father of John 1854 (London).
William had a son, also William, father of John 1855 (Warwick).

Hope I haven't confused you and that that makes sense.
WIMBUSH - Everywhere :: MARLOW/JECOCK/JUSTICE - Northamptonshire/Warwickshire/Oxfordshire :: SCALES/BRIDGES/ENGLISH/SPINK/PETCH/GOOCH/COCKSEDGE - Suffolk :: GARRETT/GIBBS/FEARN - Warwickshire :: DEVOS - Scotland (Aberdeen)/France(Dunkerque) :: MURRAY - Ireland(Down)/Scotland(Lochs) :: TIGHE/TREACY - Cork

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