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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #360 on: Monday 12 March 18 09:53 GMT (UK) »
Fascinating finds,Hallmark.
Slightly perplexed by the Jessie Sutherland reference document,as I thought Captain John Sutherland died in 1847(from memory).Will have to look more closely and go through the whole record set to see if there are any more references,or have you done that already?

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Roger

I know there are dozens of Sutherland entries in the Deeds but haven't time to look at them all.

I think there was a mention of a Gore/Sutherland Marriage, not sure if anyone has even looked to see if there was a Marriage Agreement/Settlement registered.

There was a Will snippet I post for William (?)  not sure if anyone has checked to see if there is an entry in the registers or not.

The references to letters for 2 sons was posted, not sure if anyone has sent for them or not.

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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #361 on: Monday 12 March 18 11:30 GMT (UK) »
Just to fill in data on the "sisters" mentioned.

Esther Sutherland,baptised March 1811,Rathkeale,Co. Limerick  (Father-John,Mother-Catherine)
Married Alexander Broadfoot,St. Marylebone Westminster June 1828

and probably
Elizabeth Sutherland,baptised June 1794,St Marylebone,Westminster,(Father-John,Mother-Susanna)
Married William Stavers,Saint James,Westminster,June 1810
and possibly,
Susa Sutherland,died 1803,Westminster.
(and as I have said before John Sutherland then marries Catherine Daly in 1809)

I will concentrate on trying to see if there is reference to John Sutherland's will(an Index of Wills suggests there was one dated 1847),in he hope there is further mention of Jess(i)e.


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Roger

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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #362 on: Monday 12 March 18 16:01 GMT (UK) »
.....and it looks like Sarah Balfe could be another sister and/or niece,as there is a baptism of Sarah Balfe to Jame Balfe and Sarah Sutherland,Meath 1818.However I can't find a baptism or marriage for this Sarah Sutherland.

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Roger

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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #363 on: Wednesday 14 March 18 05:26 GMT (UK) »
Hello Roger and Hallmark.  Your continuing vigilance is noticed and appreciated.

Joe
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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #364 on: Tuesday 03 April 18 18:29 BST (UK) »
Well the Dunsandle lot were obviously in Clontarf..... so could Ann be Lady Ann Daly??
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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #365 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 17:28 BST (UK) »
It looks to me as if her full name is Anne Elizabeth Charlotte Nugent.As she is born in 1839 she seems too young to be the candidate of a portrait taken abroad in 1850,though she is related to the Lady Ann Daly,subject of my speculation.

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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #366 on: Sunday 08 April 18 19:59 BST (UK) »
Isn't hallmark's Jessie Sutherland the half-sister of John Sutherland (father of Jessie Sophia)? I seem to remember the names Broadfoot, Balfe, etc. from the will of James Sutherland, Lord Duffus.

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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #367 on: Sunday 08 April 18 20:12 BST (UK) »
Isn't hallmark's Jessie Sutherland the half-sister of John Sutherland (father of Jessie Sophia)? I seem to remember the names Broadfoot, Balfe, etc. from the will of James Sutherland, Lord Duffus.

Oh she's not mine!  I never met her....   ;D
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Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« Reply #368 on: Monday 23 April 18 19:14 BST (UK) »
Spring day....fresh air and all that!

We have James Francis Burke's birth day from his gravestone as being on 20 July 1829 in Dublin.

I have found this entry from the St Andrew's Dublin RC baptisms database for 22 July 1829, baptism of a James Burke, father Jno (John) and mother Eleonor. Witnesses a James and Catherine Burke.

Looking through these registers, entries are minimal in terms of detail, as these type of entries often can be.

Dates would fit for it to be James Francis. Eleo(a)nor and its variants as we know could also fit with the name of Ellen/Helen etc. www.whatsinaname.net/php/search.php?action=search2&search_name=eleanor

Thinking here also of the birth for James and Jessie of their daughter Mary Ellen in Cincinatti in 1855.

Monica


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