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The Children of Daniel McBride SCOTT
« on: Thursday 02 December 10 07:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Hope someone can solve the mystery of Lily Scott.
Daniel McBride Scott married Alice Upton in 1883. They had 5 children - all born in Victoria except for Martha - she was born in Temora.....

Martha (b: 1884),
Agnus (b: 1885),
Robert (b: 1888)
Helena (b: 1890)
Alice (b: 1891)

I recently found a photo of Martha with a young lady similar in age. They were both dressed the same. On the back was written - dated Sydney 1907....

Dear Lily,
...........................
from your affectionate sister
Martha


Obviously Martha was sending her sister the photo of the two of them.
But.....who is Lily??????
I can't find any birth, marriage or death for her.
Hope someone can help
Shakel

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Re: The Children of Daniel McBride Scott
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 02 December 10 08:14 GMT (UK) »
Could it be a sister-in-law. I have a few incidences of this. Who did Angus and Robert marry, either of them a Lily?

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Re: The Children of Daniel McBride Scott
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 02 December 10 08:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi Annie,
Thank you for your reply.
Sadly, Robert, Helena and Alice died as babes, and Agnes (sorry, my fault, not Angus) did not marry, she became an Officer in the Salvation Army.
I'm really at a dead end here...
Shakel

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Re: The Children of Daniel McBride SCOTT
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 02 December 10 08:28 GMT (UK) »
Do you have the death cert for either of the parents, that should show the children?

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Re: The Children of Daniel McBride SCOTT
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 02 December 10 08:34 GMT (UK) »
That is the other mystery I was going to persue....

I have tried for years to find the deaths of Alice and Daniel........no luck there either.
I only have the death cert for Martha, which confirms the father and mother.
Shakel

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Re: The Children of Daniel McBride SCOTT
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 02 December 10 15:19 GMT (UK) »


If Alice Upton was a widow she might have brought older children, including Lily, to this marriage. Her childbearing extends over seven years which is short for the times so she might be an older woman. Do you have the marriage certificate? - it would also have names for parents of Alice and Daniel, which would assist in locating their deaths.

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Re: The Children of Daniel McBride SCOTT
« Reply #6 on: Friday 03 December 10 01:45 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I am not able to bring you any closer to solving your riddle, but I did find this burial of interest.

Perhaps you have seen it already.

Location all together at COBURG CEMETERY. Methodist A 148

MCBRIDE  Daniel died   15/10/1884 Aged 46
   
SCOTT  Alice May died  17/07/1893 
SCOTT  Helena E died 1/08/1890
 
THORBURN  Andrew died  29/10/1938 
THORBURN  Andrew Mcclennan died  7/04/1915 
THORNBURN  Robert Newton Scott  died 2/12/1888

So your  two little girls are with this  person.

The death

MCBRIDE Danl.
Father Danl
Mother Martha DUESS
Age 46
PRESTON
Year 1884  #13


There is this marriage.

MCBRIDE, DANIEL to DILKES, LOUISA
Birthplace Ballymena
Year 1878 #1817

There are children to this couple from 1878 to 1886 in COLLINGWOOD.They can be listedif of interest.

Sue



 
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Re: The Children of Daniel McBride SCOTT
« Reply #7 on: Friday 03 December 10 02:14 GMT (UK) »
Looking a little further at this burial group, here is the death of
ROBERT NEWTON SCOTT THORNBURN

SCOTT Robert Newton
Father Daniel Mcbride
Mother Alice UPTON
Age11M
At  FITZROY
Year 1888 #13401

So we have the additional  surname name THORNBURN being applied in 1888.

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Re: The Children of Daniel McBride SCOTT
« Reply #8 on: Friday 03 December 10 02:18 GMT (UK) »
Good find Sue

The Andrew d 1938, parents are Wlm Thorburn and Martha McBride
Andrew McLennan 1915 , father Thomas

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