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Annie ....Kings lynn,or wales ?
« on: Monday 20 December 10 13:02 GMT (UK) »
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 Annie 1864c  ...married to George Senior 1865 born Pontypridd. (railway breaker)
My problem is Annie,  I' found a Annie in Norfolk /Wales .
I can't find Annie & George getting married or much on Annie .  Im ok with George.
 please can anyone find Annie .

                          Thankyou ....Magicnanny
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Re: Annie ....Kings lynn,or wales ?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 December 10 13:37 GMT (UK) »
You can follow the family through the 1891/1901/1911 census returns.

George was a Railway Brakesman (n.b. not breaker!) and then a Railway Guard, before becoming an Electric Car Driver.
Born about 1865 in Newport, Monmouthshire.

His wife, Annie Elizabeth was also born about 1865, but in Kings Lynn, Norfolk.

Number of years married on 1911 census points to a marriage about 1888.

Best fit for a marriage would be:
September 1888, Cardiff registration district

SENIOR, George
HARRISON, Annie Elizabeth
HARBOURNE, Richard Joseph
HARTERY, Mary

Of course, only looking at the marriage certificate would confirm that this is your George and Annie.
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Re: Annie ....Kings lynn,or wales ?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 December 10 13:45 GMT (UK) »
Further to the above.

I can only find 1 Annie Harrison on the 1881 census, who was born around 1865 in Kings Lynn.
(But you still need proof that this Annie married George)

Reference RG11/1913/102/2

HARRISON, William  Head  Married  M  42  Licensed Victualler, Grantham, Lincolnshire
HARRISON, Rosetta  Wife  Married  F  42  Kings Lynn
HARRISON, Annie  Daughter  Single  F  15  Barmaid  Kings Lynn
HARRISON, Edward  Son  Single  M  11  Gt Yarmouth
HARRISON, Ernest  Son  Single  M  8  Gt Yarmouth
HARRISON, Walter  Son  Single  M  7  Gt Yarmouth
HARRISON, George  Son  Single  M  4  Gt Yarmouth
HARRISON, Elizabeth  Daughter  F  2  Gt Yarmouth
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Re: Annie ....Kings lynn,or wales ?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 20 December 10 17:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi ,Thanks    KGarrad,
 Yes I' have info on Annie & George , on the cences of of 1901 ,
Its Annie before she was married i keep coming up with a brick wall .
It seems Annie's parents had moved maybe a few times and how Annie came to Wales must of
been a strange move for her .  It would be good to find out with my family coming from Gt Yarmouth and my husbands from Wales .  so this was a nice surprise to now have found her in Yarmouth .
                              Any more info would be great ...thanks
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Re: Annie ....Kings lynn,or wales ?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 20 December 10 20:29 GMT (UK) »
I know what you mean!
My mother was born in Wales, but her father came from Wiltshire, and her mother came from Kent?!

Finally worked out that both families were drawn to the pits - and so they met and married.

Will keep looking for you.
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Re: Annie ....Kings lynn,or wales ?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 20 December 10 20:55 GMT (UK) »
Looks like father William died.
June 1887 Yarmouth, Vol 4b, page 8
Harrison, William age 47

And mother Rosetta remarried:
March 1888, Yarmouth, Vol 4b, page 23
Harrison, Rosetta

to either
Howlett, Edward John A
or
Stanley, Joseph James


Doesn't explain why Annie moved though!


Meanwhile, 1871 census, reference RG10/1790/8/10
HARRISON, William  Head  Married  M  32  Wood Turner  Grantham, Lincs
HARRISON, Rosetta  Wife  Married  F  31  Kings Lynn, Norfolk
HARRISON, William  Son  Single  M  8  Gt Yarmouth
HARRISON, Edward  Son  Single  M  6 months  Gt Yarmouth

All at Great Yarmouth


And Annie is with her Aunt in Kings Lynn:
Reference RG1/1865/12/17

GAZELEY, Elizabeth  Head  ?  F  35  Outfitter  Kings Lynn
SMITH, Mary  Sister  Unmarried  F  22  Kings Lynn
SMITH, Elizabeth  Mother ?  F  67  Gooderstone?
HARRISON, Annie  Niece  F  4  Kings Lynn
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Re: Annie ....Kings lynn,or wales ?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 20 December 10 21:22 GMT (UK) »
And 1861!
Reference RG09/1257/75/29 Kings Lynn

SMITH, Elizabeth  Head  Widow  F  59  Gooderstone, Norfolk
SMITH, Rosetta  Daughter  Single  F  21  Sempstress  Kings Lynn
SMITH, Mary  Daughter  Single  F  10  Scholar  Kings Lynn

And, reference RG09/2342/101/20 Sleaford
PEARSON, John  Head  Married  M  55  Labourer  Wellingcore, Lincs
PEARSON, Sarah  Wife  Married  F  55  Riplingham, Yorks
HARRISON, William  Lodger  Unmarried  M  22  Wood Turner  Grantham, Lincs
AINSED, Charles  Lodger  Unmarried  M  20  Painter  Grantham, Lincs
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Re: Annie ....Kings lynn,or wales ?
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 14:06 GMT (UK) »
  THANKYOU ,   that's great work ,it takes me ages to find things .
now thinking of the best way to find out why there ended up in Wales ....
but this has been such a  help and nice  to  be able to add to our tree   . .
      Happy Christmas     :)
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Re: Annie ....Kings lynn,or wales ?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 15:13 GMT (UK) »
The obvious question has to be: Did they meet in Great Yarmouth, or did they meet in South Wales?

I was thinking that maybe the family moved to work in the mines (as my grandmother's father did), but as Annie's father seems to have died in Yarmouth, that puts an end to that thought!

Maybe George worked on the railways in Norfolk?

There are some railway staff records available in The National Archives - I paid a researcher to look for my railway ancestor.


Just to keep your interest up, have a look at the 1871 census for George, reference RG10/5346/77/11, Newport, Monmouthshire

SENIOR, Robert  Head  Widower  M  50  Platelayer  b Stalbridge, Dorset
SKILLINGS, Margaret  Housekeeper  Unmarried  F  35  Laundress  b Paisley, Scotland
SENIOR, Mark  Son  M  17  Engine Cleaner  b Chepstow, Mon.
SENIOR, Sarah J  Daughter  F  8  b Newport, Mon
SENIOR, George  Son  M  6  B Newport, Mon
SKILLINGS, Elizabeth A  Daughter  F  2  b Newport, Mon

Prettige Feestdagen! (as they say here in Holland!)
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