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Hosman/Osman
« on: Monday 20 December 10 22:08 GMT (UK) »
I am researching my great great relative Lillias Hosman (male) and I cannot find his father or further records. He had children Osa, Enos, and Lillias, why these strange names and what was his mother and father called. has anyone been able to get back any further or do they know why the names of his children were different. many thanks for any help.

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Re: Hosman/Osman
« Reply #1 on: Monday 20 December 10 23:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

1861 census for Sussex - all b Heathfield except wife Ruth

Lilly Hosman 38 ag labourer
Ruth  35 b Herstmonceux
Isabella Ann  16
Lilly Thomas  13
Osa Albert 11
Henry David 9
Enos Enoch   7
Ruth Mary   5
Ellen Bergam  2
Nicholas Hollands lodger 28
RG9 Piece 569 Folio 170 Page 4

Do you have Ruth's maiden name?  I cannot find a marriage at the moment for that name but there is one in 1842 in Hailsham which has a Ruth Wood and Lilly Horner on the same page

In 1851 they are indexed as Osmond - image is Osmond.  All b Heathfield except Ruth

Lilly Osmond 28 ag labourer
Ruth   24 Herstmonceux
Edward W 8
Isabella A  5
Lilly T  3
Osa A Osmond 1
HO107 Piece 1638 Folio 400 Page 20
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Re: Hosman/Osman
« Reply #2 on: Monday 20 December 10 23:42 GMT (UK) »
Found the marriage on the IGI BETA site - it was to Ruth Wood

24.9.1842 at Heathfield Sussex

Lilly Hosmer - father Edward
Ruth Wood - father William

https://beta.familysearch.org/

He does not appear to be Lillias as per your post
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Re: Hosman/Osman
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 08:46 GMT (UK) »
Carole,

Thank you, I am very new to this and I would like to trace the family back, through Lilly and Edward his father too see how far I can get. Are there sites I can access to do this on? has anyone already done this I wonder?

Many thanks

Andy

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Re: Hosman/Osman
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 08:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,

when I checked the details for Alfred Enos Osman born Mayfield 1895 his father comes up as Enos born in Heathfield 1854? and there is a replica Enos Enoch for same place 1853. Does anyone know if these are the same person? can I expect that records are some times replicated?

Thanks

Andy

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Re: Hosman/Osman
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 09:44 GMT (UK) »
Amongst the membership of Sussex Family History Group is a subscriber who traces their line from a great GRANDFATHER called Lily HOSMER, born c1823 and of Heathfield & Hailsham.  Their e mail address can be found by accessing the SFHG Members Interests Website.
A subscriber to Genes Reunited has Lily in their ancestry as well, but as Osman. 

You also mention Lily's father was Edward.  The 1841 census index for Hailsham has an Edward Hosmer born 1806, an Elizabeth born 1801, and possible children, Edward 1824, Betsy 1831 and Burgain 1835.  It may be worth having a look at the original of this.
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Re: Hosman/Osman
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 13:02 GMT (UK) »
1841 for Heathfield - all shown as born Sussex

Edward Hosmer 35 agric labourer
Elizabeth  40
Edward  17
Betsy   10
Burgam   6 - female
 
HO107 Piece 1108/3  Folio 15 Page 23

If you look again at the 1861 census details above - one of Lilly's children was Ethel Bergam

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when I checked the details for Alfred Enos Osman born Mayfield 1895 his father comes up as Enos born in Heathfield 1854? and there is a replica Enos Enoch for same place 1853. Does anyone know if these are the same person? can I expect that records are some times replicated?

One and the same person - middle christian names were not always used
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Re: Hosman/Osman
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Carol,

Thank you, do you know if Edward was related to the Hosmers of rotherfield as they trace back to 1550?

Many thanks

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Re: Hosman/Osman
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 December 10 19:56 GMT (UK) »
Haven't a clue - 1841 is the first available census
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