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Help with Royal Navy record please
« on: Tuesday 04 January 11 19:13 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help please with the attached Royal Navy record from 1859?

Under the “character” column he’s described as good or v. good but under the “cause of discharge” column it mentions “goal”.  I don’t understand how he can be good but in goal?

Secondly, anyone tell me what the last words are in the “cause of discharge” column.

And lastly, on the first page (which I haven’t attached) it gives his date of birth as Sep 1840 but the record says he joined as a boy in 1859.  Does that mean that at 19 years of age he was still classed as a “boy” or was his 10 years service supposed to start from 1859? 
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Re: Help with Royal Navy record please
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 19:23 GMT (UK) »
It looks like "Gaol"     but I wonder whether it could be an abbreviation for something else.

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Re: Help with Royal Navy record please
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 20:04 GMT (UK) »
Search for the ship HMS Gibraltar between 1863 and  1867.

It could be that the ship was de-commissioned  and accordingly her crew were also laid off or put on reserve.

The last phrase looks like    O**   J***   has anyone any ideas that could mean in Naval parlance.

The reason for discharge may be nothing to do with the man,  it just may be defence cuts, or budget cuts.

Try looking at History of the RN  during those years.
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Re: Help with Royal Navy record please
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 20:13 GMT (UK) »
Correction

Should have said  Word  looks like    A***    J*****
Nursall   ~    Buckinghamshire
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Re: Help with Royal Navy record please
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Google   HMS Gibraltar 1859    or HMS Duncan.

HMS Gibraltar was last in commission  12 January  1867
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Re: Help with Royal Navy record please
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 20:32 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Scouseboy - I've literally just been googling and was surprised that a ship launched in 1860 was de-commissioned in 1867 - I guess they had defence cuts then too.  Really appreciate your help. 
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Re: Help with Royal Navy record please
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 20:35 GMT (UK) »
Or technology had come up with advanced engines or weapons.
Nursall   ~    Buckinghamshire
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Re: Help with Royal Navy record please
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Correction
Should have said  Word  looks like    A***    J*****

Second word is Invld, invalided I guess
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Re: Help with Royal Navy record please
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 January 11 21:00 GMT (UK) »
Thanks - that's interesting.  Looking at it again I thought the first word might be Ave (average).  Very puzzling anyway.  Cheers
Wright (West Ham, Stratford, St Lukes, Cripplegate,
Widenstrom (Chicago and Minnesota)
Swain (Cripplegate, St Lukes)
Wolfe (St Giles in the Fields)
Willis (Gt. Leighs, Margaretting, Gt. Waltham, Ilford, Brentford)
Bryant (Bristol, Glos)
Searle
Keyworth (Yorkshire)