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Re: McHardy Family
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 15:50 BST (UK) »
http://www.geograph.org.uk/gridref/NJ2608

Interesting that one of the sources for the name is a Reverend McHardy.

Fasti Ecclesiae Scoticanae lists
- Charles McHardy, born 1747, son of John McHardy in the Luib, Corgarff and Helen, daughter of Andrew Farquharson of Allargue*, was minister of Crathie from 1789 until his death in 1822. He was the author of the Statistical Account of Crathie.
- Charles Forbes McHardy, born 1820, son of John McHardy, farmer, and Janet Stewart, was minister of Corgarff from 1858 to his death in 1891
- William McHardy, son of James McHardy and Margaret Smith, born Strathdon 1801, was minister of Boddam from 1901

*Allargue is about a mile north-west from Luib

BTW there are no fewer than 162 McHardys in Strathdon in the 1851 census! See https://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

You can see where most of the farms they lived in were by going to http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.1644&lon=-3.2131&layers=5&b=1 and dragging the map around.

Thank you very much for this,

There's another surname here that is among my Scottish Ancestors: Farquharson:
My 4x Great granddad John Lamond was born on the 8th of November 1807, and baptised at Braemar, the son of Alexander Lamond and (what looks like on the original baptism register) Jannet Farquharson.
But his death certificate from the 9th of April 1891, states that his mother's name and maiden surname was Margaret Farquharson. John's siblings, baptised at the same church between 1805-1814, all have the mother's name being Margaret Farquharson.
The census returns give his place of birth as Strathdon. He died in Portlethen, Kincardineshire.

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Re: McHardy Family
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 17:01 BST (UK) »
You do occasionally get an error in the register of baptisms when the clerk gets a name wrong.

My great-uncle's wife was a McHardy. Her grandfather William McHardy was born in Strathdon sometime in the early 1800s (his age in the census is not consistent) but his second marriage certificate names his parents as Alexander McHardy and Jean McIntosh. I have not found any other record of this couple.
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Re: McHardy Family
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 19:43 BST (UK) »
I've found out that my John McHardy, of Luib married a Christian Downie/ Dauney in 1786:
It appears that Isabel Kellas, was the illegitimate daughter of Christine/ Christian, widow of John McHardy of Luib. Family search actually have her baptism as 26th of June 1797, in Strathdon:
http://genealogy.fgjam.com/ps03/ps03_089.htm

https://www.familysearch.org/search/ark:/61903/1:1:XTJG-6YQ

These pages has been very useful to me. It is an old website, but I have got lots of information from it. I have been able to find out that my John McHardy, had six children baptised in Strathdon from 1783-1792.
One of his daughters was Christian McHardy. She was baptised in Strathdon on April the 2nd 1789. She actually married another McHardy. She married William McHardy, and I found them both in Luib on Freecen in the 1851 census. Number 15 here, shows the death record of Christian McHardy, "daughter of John McHardy and Christian ms Downie." Her husband William McHardy, is number 6 on this list of deaths in Strathdon from the year 1861 here:
http://www.oocities.org/swalker7736/deaths_1861.htm

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Re: McHardy Family
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 20:04 BST (UK) »
That sounds like great progress.

Don't forget, however, that FamilySearch only has an index to all this. The originals are available online at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, and they may contain additional information that is not included in the index.

If you are anywhere near a LDS Church family history library, I strongly recommend going there and arranging to rent the microfilms of the Strathdon parish registers. Go through them carefully, noting all references to McHardys, including those where the mother was a McHardy, and those where McHardys were witnesses. This is by far the best way to see the pre-1855 records, because you often pick up snippets of information that you wouldn't see if you just download all the McHardy baptisms from Scotland's People, and it's cheaper. There should be a list of LDS FHLs on the FamilySearch web site.

Also that the other two sites you mention are transcriptions, not originals. Again, the originals can only be accessed via SP.

It will probably be worth while, if and when the Kirk Session records go live on SP, taking a look at them to see what additional information is available about the illegitimate births.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.


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Re: McHardy Family
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 04 April 18 20:47 BST (UK) »
That sounds like great progress.

Don't forget, however, that FamilySearch only has an index to all this. The originals are available online at www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, and they may contain additional information that is not included in the index.

If you are anywhere near a LDS Church family history library, I strongly recommend going there and arranging to rent the microfilms of the Strathdon parish registers. Go through them carefully, noting all references to McHardys, including those where the mother was a McHardy, and those where McHardys were witnesses. This is by far the best way to see the pre-1855 records, because you often pick up snippets of information that you wouldn't see if you just download all the McHardy baptisms from Scotland's People, and it's cheaper. There should be a list of LDS FHLs on the FamilySearch web site.

Also that the other two sites you mention are transcriptions, not originals. Again, the originals can only be accessed via SP.

It will probably be worth while, if and when the Kirk Session records go live on SP, taking a look at them to see what additional information is available about the illegitimate births.

Thank you.  ;)

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Re: McHardy Family
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 April 18 17:57 BST (UK) »
Does anyone please know where "Corrybraik"/ Corrybreak is or was please?
I found it in the Strathdon parish baptisms transcriptions.

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« Reply #15 on: Monday 09 April 18 19:21 BST (UK) »
Please rephrase the question including the name of the person baptised and the date of the baptism. The date, in particular, is of great importance because if affects which maps and sources to look at.

PS I just happened on it http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.2210&lon=-3.0971&layers=5&b=1 and http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/655679

But the general principle holds good. If you are looking for information, please always give the maximum amount of already known detail and especially any dates.
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Re: McHardy Family
« Reply #16 on: Monday 09 April 18 19:35 BST (UK) »
Please rephrase the question including the name of the person baptised and the date of the baptism. The date, in particular, is of great importance because if affects which maps and sources to look at.

PS I just happened on it http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=16&lat=57.2210&lon=-3.0971&layers=5&b=1 and http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/655679

But the general principle holds good. If you are looking for information, please always give the maximum amount of already known detail and especially any dates.

Thank you.

It was this baptism with the year date of 1741:
"24th - William McHardy in Corybraik ~ WILLIAM."
Found here:
https://sites.google.com/site/strathdonvitals/opr/240-2_christenings

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Re: McHardy Family
« Reply #17 on: Monday 09 April 18 19:53 BST (UK) »
Good.

Yes, I think it will be the Corriebreck I happened on. From Gaelic 'coire', usually anglicised as 'corrie' and 'breac', meaning spotted or speckled, pronounced 'breck', which can be anglicised in many different ways.

Before the first edition of the Ordnance Survey six-inch-to-the-mile map in the 1850s, it's usually a matter of either hoping the place you want is on one of the earlier, mainly military maps, and most small crofts are not. In which case you need to see if you can track down any estate maps. We were lucky this time :)
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.