Rowland Williams married Louisa Elizabeth Rose Clarke 1915 Holyhead

[bendywendy]

Hello everyone.
I am looking for information of which family this Rowland Williams will be from. I have him as being born 1892 Llanfastog, Anglesey but no parents details. Another person has a William C Williams as a brother and that these two brothers married the same day, all I have is Dec Q 1915 Holyhead. Rowland Williams was killed in France WW1. He died on the 11th day of the 11th month 1918!! very poignant.

Next I am looking for details of where Louisa Elizabeth Rose Clarke (known as Rose) (my partners grandmother) will have been nursing in Wales, possibly Bangor. She lived at Oonavara, Rhosneigr, Anglesey LL64 5JD which was the home of her friend Meg possibly Margaret, it is said she was the sister to Rowland. After Meg's death she left all her effects and home, Oonavara, Rhosneigr,  to Rose Clarke her lifelong friend. Meg was also a nurse.

I have a photograph of Rose Clarke in a nurses uniform, I have contacted the Red Cross, they have no details of her and the uniform is not one of theirs.  There is also the possibility she worked for the Queen Alexander's Nurses, but again the uniform dosen't look like one of theirs, it is a black outfit with small white collar, long black head "veil" with a white band. How do I upload a photo onto these boards??? maybe someone could identify it??

We also know that Rose Clarke worked as a nurse on the French/Belgium border of Wimerux in WW1 nursing the troops, it is not known if this was before or after she married, again I cannot find any details for her.

If anyone can help with any details I would appreciate it greatly.

I forgot to mention that on the 1901 census I cannot decide which might be him and his family on Anglesey etc as I don't know that area at all.

This is his CWGC information...

In Memory of

Gunner ROWLAND WILLIAMS

105695, "A" Bty. 187th Bde., Royal Field Artillery
who died  age 26
on 11 November 1918
 Husband of Rose E. Williams, of "Oonavara," Rhosneigr, Anglesey.
 Remembered with honour
 TERLINCTHUN BRITISH CEMETERY, WIMILLE

This is his details for when he Signed Up..

Rowland Williams
Birth Place:   Llanfastog, Anglesey
Death Date:   11 Nov 1918
Death Location:   France & Flanders
Enlistment Location:   Blyth, Northumberland
Rank:   Gunner
Regiment:   Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery
Number:   105695
Type of Casualty:   Died
Theatre of War:   Western European Theatre

Kind regards
Bendywendy.....East Yorkshire

[bendywendy]

I have now uploaded a photo for anyone to identify the uniform of his wife Louisa Elizabeth Rose Clarke and a great deal of info too...

click on this link  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=508278.msg3647866#msg3647866

and this link will take you to Louisa's "sister" Winifred Christina Clarke..

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,499564.0.html

Bendywendy

[Annette7]

Now allowed to post details of 1911 census but Rowland son of a Rowland and Jane if that helps with 1901.   Form is written in welsh and terrible handwriting but there is a  brother William but no Meg/Margaret.

Annette

[bendywendy]

Hi Annette7
Thank you for that info.  Are you able to say what he did for occ along with his father and William??
I know that Meg/Margaret never married or had children, tis possible she was much older and already
working away from home.

I have found a Rowland Williams died in Syria WW1 with a mother Jane 1916.
Why did every family seem to name a son Rowland Williams in that area?

Bendywendy

[Annette7]

Father hotel porter, rowland and william both labourer general in hotel.

Found on 1891 Census there was a Margaret bc.1885 - however, the place is Llanfaelog (not Llanfastog which doesn't seem to exist anyway).  Guess writing difficult to read and the 'el' looked like 'st'.   Rowland's brother William is shown in 1901 as William Arthur not William C.

I also noted that Louisa Elizabeth Rose was born 1896 Tipton, Staffordshire, dau. of William and Eliza Ann.   In 1911 she appears as just Rose 14 working as a general domestic
servant in Tipton.

Annette

[bendywendy]

Hi Annette7
Thank you for all the info. I too have come across these two name places, Llanfaelog / Llanfastog, I did find one of them but cannot remember which one now, is situated on the coast heading downwards from Holyhead. 
If LER Clarke was only 18 when she married she would have needed her parents permission, might have to buy the marriage cert to check what is on it. I don't believe "she had to marry" as not found any birth/s to her and Rowland and nothing was ever mentioned that they had been. Her 3 children came from her 2nd marriage to George Henry Snowden @ York 1921.

Regards
Bendywendy

[bendywendy]

The Isle of Anglesey Archives department have been fantastic this past week helping with information.

Here is the marriage details for Rowland and Rose..

The date of the marriage is November 8th 1915 @ St Maelog's Church, Llanfaelog by Banns

Rowland Williams, full age,  bachelor,  occupation - Private in the Royal Artillery,
residence at time of marriage - Caer Llyn, Llanfaelog.  Father's name -  Rowland Williams, father`s occupation -Gamekeeper
Louisa Elizabeth Rose Clarke, of full age, spinster, occupation - Domestic Servant,
residence at time of marriage - Maelog Lake Hotel.  Father`s name -  William Clarke, father`s occupation - Iron worker.
The witnesses were Maggie Jones and Thomas Owen

Banns - Rowland must have known he had time for these and not to marry by Licence.
Rose as full age - well she was 19 years!!
Is this Maggie - the one known as Meg ??

Regards
Bendywendy

[Annette7]

If Meg was Maggie Jones she wouldn't be a sister of Rowland.

Annette

[bendywendy]

Hi Annette7
Yes,  I thought the same.
 It is very puzzling this Meg   I wonder if she did marry??
As for finding a birth for a Maggie Jones....well looks like every family had one of those on Anglesey!!!

I will talk to my partner's mother again, see if this surname Jones means anything, but this won't be until later
this week.

I also have some info on the address Oonavara, will post on here.

Regards
Bendywendy