Hibbets & Daisleys from Gamlingay area

[RobinIrvine]

Hi,
Completly new to rootschat, hoping users can help with a particular family line........

I'm trying to source information on a Rhoda Hibbett dob 09/07/1878, death 26/03/1954. Rhoda married a William Daisley 06/10/1898. As far as I can work out they had the following children:

Percy c1899, Lilian c1904, Florence c1910, Olive c1912 & Harry c1917

I also think William Daisley may have been Frederick William Daisley dob = 04/06/1870 Gamlingay/Caxton. I am descendant from Olive Daisley.

Any help in confirming my research so far would be greatly appreciated. I seem to hit a brick wall in that from Olive down I can't confirm any details with tree's or with other users.

Robin Irvine

[lizdb]

Hi and welcome.

I see you have exact dates - does that mean you have the certificates for these events? If so, you have confirmed the detials!
Have you found the family on 1901 or 1911 census?

Remember that if something is on someone elses tree, that is not confirmation - unless they have a certificate to confirm it. It is not unknown for people to publish trees with nothing more than "assumptions" on them.

[RobinIrvine]

Hi & thanks for your quick post

Your right, I've got the certs for Rhoda's birth, marriage and death. So am happy with that part.

I'm a little worried about William and his real name....... but it seems common that people, back in the day, used there middle names.

I've found people (living) from other parts of my tree, but find it very strange that I can't trace any living under Rhoda, it's almost  like a black hole.......

I'm hoping that people on rootschat may know the above names or maybe able to give me clue on anything below Rhoda.

thanks again, Robin

[jim1]

Are you trying to find living descendants?

jim

[RobinIrvine]

Hi there

Thanks for your note, yea the ultimate goal would be to find someone who has more info or photos of Rhoda/William later in their life.

I have 2 photo's of Olive (Rhoda dau) but nothing prior to that.

The search continues.....

Thannks again
Robin irvine

[bedfordshire boy]

Your right, I've got the certs for Rhoda's birth, marriage and death. So am happy with that part.

Who was named as William's father on his marriage certificate? Do you have Frederick William Daiseley's 1870 birth cert? Who were his parents?

I'm a little worried about William and his real name....... but it seems common that people, back in the day, used there middle names.

This is a bit of a sweeping statement! At that time many people didn't have a middle name, and those that did that I've come across only rarely used it as their first name.

Have you used www.freebmd.org.uk to firm up on your dates for the 5 children? After 1911 the mother's maiden name is also given. They also appear to have had Ronald in 1919.

What else do you know about Olive? Who did she marry and where? I can't see a marriage in Caxton registration district

Where have you looked for descendants of Rhoda? If you've only been looking for online trees the black hole probably merely signifies that no-one who's researched this name has put the tree online (or that you're the first to first to research it).

David

[RobinIrvine]

Hi there

Thank you for your post.

On William & Rhoda's marriage cert, his father is named as James Daisley. William is 27 years old on the cert.

Over time I've ordered all William Daisley birth certs from 1869 >> 1873 ( with mixed spellings of daisley) with no luck in finding one with a father of James. Until I came across the 1870 Frederick William Daisley, this one has the father as James Daisley and Mother Mary Daisley NEE Daisley. This seems to match the tentative tree I'd built up.

Olive Daisley married Francis Smith, Hitchin, 1933 Oct 7th. Olives father is not named. The father is also not named on Olives Birth cert, which I have, the connection to william daisley is purely the surname and the fact the Rhoda daisley NEE Hibbett only shows up once and married a William Daisley.

Thank you for your interest in my post. Hope the above answers your question.

Robin

[bedfordshire boy]

All very odd. In 1901 Rhoda, married, was living in Gamlingay with son Percy. No sign of a husband. In 1911 Rhoda was living in Gamlingay with children Percy 11, Lily 6, and Florence 11 months. No sign of a husband in the household. Olives birth certificate and her marriage certificate with the father left blank is usually an indication of illegitimacy.

In 1871 James and Mary Daisley had a son William aged 10 mths. In 1881 James and Mary Daisley had a son William 11 living with them in Gamlingay (you can find this yourself at www.familysearch.org). I can't find this William in 1891 or 1901, but I would agree that he looks like the William who married Rhoda in 1898.

The big question is: what happened to William? I have reservations as to whether he was Olive's father. It would be interesting, but expensive, to get the birth certs of her siblings (or half siblings)

David

[bedfordshire boy]

If you're looking for living people you'd probably do better looking at Genes Reunited, where there are 3 people showing Rhoda Hibbitt and 3 with with Olive Daisley - one of which in each case might well be you.

Horses for courses!