Jenkins

[Diane Heddon]

Good to see family names continued down the generations 

Notebooks belonging to John Williams are at Swansea Record Office:

http://www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=47150

On 1901 census, John is listed as Manager Tinplate Works, whereas Edward Jenkins was listed as Tinplate Manufacturer.

Many thanks from Di.

Morgan,

The information I posted about Annie and John Williams was gleaned from my mother, Eira Kerr (nee Williams), in an in depth conversation around 2000 and I believe her memory would have been fairly accurate at that time. However, memories play tricks and did I record it correctly at the time? I think so because I took,  what the lawyers call "contemporaneous notes"! From what you say about Edward Jenkins, founding the Clayton Tinplate Works in 1883 after he had purchased the Ffoesyrefail Works (and renamed it Clayton) and in 1885 and John Williams moving from Abertillery to manage the works, it could be that the Williams line obtained the interest in the business through both marriage and employment. Incidentally, my middle name is Arthur after my grandfather but my brother's is "Clayton" after the works we believe.

Good to see family names continued down the generations 

Notebooks belonging to John Williams are at Swansea Record Office:

http://www.swansea.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=47150

On 1901 census, John is listed as Manager Tinplate Works, whereas Edward Jenkins was listed as Tinplate Manufacturer.

Many thanks from Di.

Hi  Wychlings please get back to me to see if we are related it seems weare  regards Diane

[Diane Heddon]

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I wonder whether Annie Jenkins was related to Edward Jenkins who founded the Clayton Tinplate Works in 1883, after he had purchased the Ffoesyrefail Works (and renamed it Clayton). In 1885, John Williams moved from Abertillery to manage the works.

Kind Regards
Morgan

This information came from my mother (now deceased) around 2000. It relates to my great grandfather's wife, Annie Jenkins, the daughter of a wealthy innkeeper – they owned a coaching inn called the Landor Inn. Not sure it is helpful but worth putting into the pot.

About 1846 a McCarthy eloped from somewhere south of Cork in Ireland to start a new life in Newcastle. It was a daughter from this family, Ellen McCarthy, who lived from 1860 – 1937 who was to be my mother's grandmother.

Ellen married John Johnson, a butcher from the South Shields area in the north east of England. They lived in South Shields and her daughter Eveline Johnson was borne there in 1888. Eveline was Eira’s mother; she died on 6th October 1968.

Eveline was to marry Esau Arthur Williams in 1911 and have three children;

1. Eira,
2. Yvonne, her younger sister by just 1˝ yrs, and
3. Illtyd Morley, the youngest of the family by another 2 years.

Arthur Williams was borne in Landor, outside Swansea. He was Managing Director of the Clayton Tinplate Works in Pontardulais as was his father, John Williams before him. John was not wealthy, but he was clever and he married Annie Jenkins, the daughter of a wealthy innkeeper – they owned a coaching inn called the Landor Inn. He used this money to buy shares in the tinplate works thus gaining the MD position, turning it into a family business with 300 employees, and later into a steel strip mill.

Arthur died in November 1950; He lived at Plas Gwyn in Pontardulais from his marriage to Eveline (my granny) in 1911 (when the house was built) until his death.

More available ... but not in relation to the Jenkins connection.

TU so much for this exelent and wonderfull suprise for me[u hava made my day!!] after a few long years of wondering and researching no end...this Annie Jenkins was my 4th gr;grandmother...i am thrilled to bits! i will get back properly on this note  sap. luv Diane...in oz. born in Swansea 1944.

Please all people if you are still around on rootschat get back to me regarding the tinworks relations and many Jenkin'ses to be discussed here, best wishes Diane.

[Diane Heddon]

Thank you for getting back to me on this Diane.
As you are no doubt aware this business is very frustrating but a little addictive at the same time!
The only information I have is that my great grandfather was born in Monmouth Wales and died in Paddington Sydney, in 1926. He married in Morpeth NSW in 1878.  His parents were Martin Harris and Susannah Jenkin and it is stated on his death certificate that his father Martin was an Innkeeper.
That's about all the info I have.  If you have anything that maybe correlates with this I would be most grateful.
Thanks again,
Therese

G'day Theresa, hopefully i may be able to help you with what info i have...speak soon, regards 'Di in oz'smiles....

Hi Theresa, at last page has just come up for me.I have just re-signed in here, hopefully we can keep in touch, also I will send you my new e mail address privately for you. I think that your Sussanah maybe a link to my family-.Also Edward? please reply here first, thanks ...regards Diane.

Hi Diane,

Welcome back to RootsChat I can merge your two profiles together once you have read this message if

Regards

Sarah :)Hi Sarah I would like my profile page to be  now Diane Heddon. Australia.  thats about all, many thanks Diane.

[Diane Heddon]

Thank you for getting back to me on this Diane.
As you are no doubt aware this business is very frustrating but a little addictive at the same time!
The only information I have is that my great grandfather was born in Monmouth Wales and died in Paddington Sydney, in 1926. He married in Morpeth NSW in 1878.  His parents were Martin Harris and Susannah Jenkin and it is stated on his death certificate that his father Martin was an Innkeeper.
That's about all the info I have.  If you have anything that maybe correlates with this I would be most grateful.
Thanks again,
Therese

G'day Theresa, hopefully i may be able to help you with what info i have...speak soon, regards 'Di in oz'smiles....

Hi Theresa, So sorry I have not got back to earlier! However I have an Hannah Jenkin who married George Truscott.Some of the names showed as  Jenkin and Jenkins. The person you spoke about that was Susanna may have been a relation to my Hannah Sophia Jenkin. She was born 1810 in Llangyfelach. If you are still on rootschat I can send more info to you and hopefully help you, and see if we are  connected. By the way I have an Edmund Jenkin/s
Truscott one of Hannah's children who migrated to Australia[nsw]   best wishes, Diane.

[Diane Heddon]

This information came from my mother (now deceased) around 2000. It relates to my great grandfather's wife, Annie Jenkins, the daughter of a wealthy innkeeper – they owned a coaching inn called the Landor Inn. Not sure it is helpful but worth putting into the pot.

About 1846 a McCarthy eloped from somewhere south of Cork in Ireland to start a new life in Newcastle. It was a daughter from this family, Ellen McCarthy, who lived from 1860 – 1937 who was to be my mother's grandmother.

Ellen married John Johnson, a butcher from the South Shields area in the north east of England. They lived in South Shields and her daughter Eveline Johnson was borne there in 1888. Eveline was Eira’s mother; she died on 6th October 1968.

Eveline was to marry Esau Arthur Williams in 1911 and have three children;

1. Eira,
2. Yvonne, her younger sister by just 1˝ yrs, and
3. Illtyd Morley, the youngest of the family by another 2 years.

Arthur Williams was borne in Landor, outside Swansea. He was Managing Director of the Clayton Tinplate Works in Pontardulais as was his father, John Williams before him. John was not wealthy, but he was clever and he married Annie Jenkins, the daughter of a wealthy innkeeper – they owned a coaching inn called the Landor Inn. He used this money to buy shares in the tinplate works thus gaining the MD position, turning it into a family business with 300 employees, and later into a steel strip mill.

Arthur died in November 1950; He lived at Plas Gwyn in Pontardulais from his marriage to Eveline (my granny) in 1911 (when the house was built) until his death.

More available ... but not in relation to the Jenkins connection.

TU so much for this exelent and wonderfull suprise for me[u hava made my day!!] after a few long years of wondering and researching no end...this Annie Jenkins was my 4th gr;grandmother...i am thrilled to bits! i will get back properly on this note  sap. luv Diane...in oz. born in Swansea 1944.

Hi, and thank you for this info...hopefully all that the above message will link up with my Annah Jenkins who was born ab'1810/11 in' Llangyfelach possibily around the' Landore 'area]George Trusscot married this' Hannah' or 'Annah' jenkins, so far what I have gathered is that there were approx; 3 Annah's as in mother daughter- grandmother,, Annah Sophia was an added middle name to one or 2 of them even!One of these were Hannah Sophia JenkinsTruscott      probably  a daughter or grandaughter?c1846. Llangyfelach-  Frederick Jenkins Truscott[Landore Inn] Hannah born ab 1810 borned all of her children at her home in the Landore Inn so it was said.There was a Clemon and an AnnJ1832 Morriston Llangyfelach.Hannah dborn 1810/11  died aged 56 possibly in or around the Swansea area.March qtr 1868.  I am hoping that this family corresponds and links to my Jenkins line...i have a lot to research still.  PS  A TONY JENKINS of the forest of dean site [found on google]  also has a Susannah in his two Jenkins lines.. thats all for now folks as i am not sure who or if we are relies here...regards happy hunting Diane.  ps yes i think Hannah brn;1810- her brother was named Edward...he went to usa,,she tried to contact him re; the death of her father..but alas her brother had died not long before...more when i read my files n books tomorrow....                                                                                                                                                                   

Hi anyone knowing any information going back further than Hannah Sophia Jenkins  born in 1810/11 please keep in touch. She died at 56 years of age, and went to live with her sister after being widowed.The sister lived just outside Swansea near Port Talbot -Measteg area.I should like to know if anyone has dates names of Hannah's grandparent at all? Her father was James Jenkins who possibly married Ann Williams?[maybe]She was related to all the above information.- Well I feel certain she was actually. but I would like to know their history further back in time, particularly from Hannah Sophia Jenkins parents lines...best regards Diane.

[sarah]

Hi Diane,

I am struggling to read your last replies because of all the quotes, I am sure it will be easier for folk to read if you only click the quote button just the once

Regards

Sarah