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Edward Jones _ Architect
« on: Monday 31 January 11 23:34 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,
Sorry to pick the most common name in Wales  :-[ but....

 I'm looking for Edward Jones, (assumption: c 1800 - c 1850)
 he was the father of :

Edward George Jones (1828- 1873) born in Wrexham.
E.G. Jones was a chemist living in High St, Staines, Middlesex (1861 & 71 census)
Married to Anna Elizabeth Bragg

EGs marriage certificate (1858) states:
EG (30 years) is a Widower  (another unsolved mystery).
Father -:  Edward Jones, Deceased - Occupation Architect.
Mother's name not stated.
 
Checking local Welsh records occupations are generally miner, farmer etc.
but no architects. Maybe there is a register?
He may have moved to England with EG, also I'm assuming he was qualified when he was in Wales.

Will be grateful for any info or direction to other resources
Kind Regards Gary
Edward George JONES Wrexham Wales/Staines Middlesex
Edward Llewellyn JONES Staines/ Wellington NZ
Thomas & Harriett BOSHER aka BOWSHER Surrey/NZ
Joseph DALY /Mullingar, Westmeath,Ire./Wellington NZ
Parker of Welburn, Yorkshire

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Re: Edward Jones _ Architect
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 00:16 GMT (UK) »
The birthyears you are quoting do not add up - was he born 1821 or 1829

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Edward George Jones (1829- 1873) born in Wrexham.

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EGs marriage certificate (1851) states:
EG (30 years) is a Widower 
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Re: Edward Jones _ Architect
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 00:19 GMT (UK) »
You have given the wrong marriage year - he was married in 1858 in Taunton - not 1851
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Re: Edward Jones _ Architect
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 02:51 GMT (UK) »
You have given the wrong marriage year - he was married in 1858 in Taunton - not 1851

Thanks Carole, my blue ! As you say 1858. His age on the census 1861 & 71 is 32 & 42 years respectively. Therefore, have previously used b. 1829.
Regards gary
Edward George JONES Wrexham Wales/Staines Middlesex
Edward Llewellyn JONES Staines/ Wellington NZ
Thomas & Harriett BOSHER aka BOWSHER Surrey/NZ
Joseph DALY /Mullingar, Westmeath,Ire./Wellington NZ
Parker of Welburn, Yorkshire

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Re: Edward Jones _ Architect
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 19:04 GMT (UK) »
1851 Census of 292 High Street, St Peter at Arches Lincoln
ref  HO107/2105/296/20
Edward George Jones, age 23, Chemist Assistant, born Wales Denby Wrexham





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Re: Edward Jones _ Architect
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 19:17 GMT (UK) »
According to this link the Architecture Association School of Archiecture was founded in 1847, most architects were trained by articled pupillage until that time. 

http://www.aaschool.ac.uk/AALIFE/LIBRARY/aahistory.php

The Dictionary of Welsh Biography contains information on several noted architects from Wales.  It appears that most were educated and articled in England. 

HTH
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Re: Edward Jones _ Architect
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 21:19 GMT (UK) »
1851 Census of 292 High Street, St Peter at Arches Lincoln

 Thanks very much, Heather.

I shall dig further, but it would appear that the recording of early architects is held in some office .
 I'm compiling an archival and historical 'must see' list for my UK visit.

 ??? I revisited the 1851 census.  Edward George still did not jump out at me, eventually I used the ref#
above _ eureka.
If appropriate, can you indicate your methodology?

Kind regards Gary.
Edward George JONES Wrexham Wales/Staines Middlesex
Edward Llewellyn JONES Staines/ Wellington NZ
Thomas & Harriett BOSHER aka BOWSHER Surrey/NZ
Joseph DALY /Mullingar, Westmeath,Ire./Wellington NZ
Parker of Welburn, Yorkshire

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Re: Edward Jones _ Architect
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 21:23 GMT (UK) »
Will send a PM

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Re: Edward Jones _ Architect
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 February 11 22:31 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have checked every entry on both the English and Welsh 1841 census for an Edward Jones b 1828-1830 with a father Edward - all counties

Only about 6 had a father Edward - but none was an architect
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