Edward Jones _ Architect

[wilcoxon]

Another mystery  , what happened to the half brother , he`s gone by 1861 and I can`t find a death that seems to be him 
Births Dec 1844   
JACKSON  Matthew Henry    Macclesfield

1851 HO107; Piece: 1918; Folio: 737; Page: 19
Morrab Place , Madron.
Henry Jackson 44
Sophia Jackson 44
Matthew Hy Jackson 6 b Macclesfeld.
Sophia Jones 20

[Jo Harding]

Hello all,

Another piece to fit into the puzzle is for John James, the solicitor named in Edward Jones's Will. John James was also entrusted with the gaurdianship of the minors, plus a Trustee of the Trust Fund.

He appears in Pigot's 1835 Directory as of "Vicarage House (Attorneys)".

Up to now, I cannot find him in either the 1841, or 1851 census in Wrexham area.

I am thinking it might be helpful to find out more about the firm he was with to see if they deposited records in archives anywhere.

Jo

[wilcoxon]

http://www.denbighshire.gov.uk/en-gb/DNAP-78GL8L

Name:   JAMES, JOHN 
 Town:  WREXHAM 
 County:  DENB 
 Occupation:  ATTORNEY 
 Date(s):   1839 1842 
 Reference No:  DD/DM/451/38

There are more Refs to a John James GENT of Wrexham, but they could be anyone.

What about this 
http://www.tom-mercer.me.uk/marriages.htm
The Wrexham Advertiser, and Register Of Literary, Railway, Local and
General Information
Who was from Wrexham, Ann or John ?? would he be to old to be this one.
October 1st 1851  Wrexham        No.26
Marriages:
On the 17th ult., at Manchester, JOHN JAMES, Esq., Solicitor, to ANN, eldest daughter of JAMES FARRER, Esq., formerly of Wrexham.

Looks like he was still in Wrexham
North Wales Chronicle  Saturday, November 5, 1853
Birth
27th ult at the Vicarage Wrexham the wife of  John James esq solicitor, a daughter.

Wrexham and Denbighshire Advertiser,  Saturday, February 12, 1859;
Birth On the 8th inst at Elwy House, Wrexham the wife of John James Esq soliciter of a son.
( Elwy House is still there , on the end of King St opposite the museum)

1861 RG9; Piece: 4287; Folio: 88; Page: 44;
King St . Wrexham, 4 children between 8 and 2.
John James 53 town clerk of Wrexham b Wem
Anne E wife 38 Solicitor b Liverpool.

Can we track the solicitors from this
THE LATE MR JOHN JAMES .
The Wrexham Advertiser, ), Saturday, May 05, 1888;
 An obituary with his life story. A brief version.
He was the first Town Clerk of Wrexham , died at his residence Plas Acton age 80.
He first came to Wrexham aged 15 ( 1823 ? ) was articled to Mr Lee , a solicitor in that town.  Both men went to Maidenhead but returned to Wrexham.
He  was admitted as a solicitor in 1828 and started a practice in town, he took into partership the late Mr J C Owen . He was appointed the town clerk in 1857.
He was married 3 times, the last one was Ann Farrell.
On the day of his death he walked from Plas Acton to Church at Rhosrobin , walked back home, had his Sunday dinner, was taken ill and died the next day at one o clock in the morning. he is buried in Gwersyllt churchyard.
 ( Less than 5 mins walkfrom my house. he is good company, my Nana and Tiad are buried there  )

If anyone wants the copy of this obit, send me your email in a PM.

[wilcoxon]

Has this c****d it all up  or is there a mistake again with the years.
These would have been very old graves when the transciptions were recorded.
Dissenters burial ground MI`s
Thanks again to Jill Rose. 

No. 221 Edward JONES (architect of Queen Street, Wrexham, next to the Linen Hall)  died 1st April 1833 aged 39 years                       

No. 516
William JONES (s/o Edward JONES) died 1832 infant
Henrietta JONES (d/o Edward JONES) died 1832 infant
Edward JONES (father of above, of Wrexham) died April 1st 1835 aged 30 years
Alfred JONES (s/o Edward) died?   infant

ADDITIONS

No. 52 (Edwards brother)
John Jones (clothier of High Street, Wrexham husb of Sarah) died Nov 4th 1826 aged 39 years.
Sarah Jones w/o John Jones (eldest daughter of Rev William and Sarah Browne) died March 12th 1820 aged 32 years.

No. 81 (Their father).
John Jones carpenter died Jan 6th 1796 aged 42 years.

[Jo Harding]

Thanks for the information on John James, solicitor. I suspect that the references to John James Gent, are for the same person. Could this be the abbreviation for Gentleman?

Re the new finds on the grave inscriptions. I think that it is unlikely two people by the name of Edward Jones, architect, would die on 1 April 1833 and 1835. It is possible but my view is that the 3 and 5 have been mistranscribed, at least the grave with the 3 on it has.

Same with the 0 and 9, I have noticed that these are often hard to determine when the grave is old and the writing is worn, or damaged by moss etc. I assume that the 39 is the correct one.

The only thing I wasn't clear on is whether there are two graves for Edward Jones, ie plots 221 and 516. Or is the latter just for the record on the children's graves.

I imagine these children are in addition to those we have already. Coule be they are the "missing" ones born before 1828.

Jo.

[wilcoxon]

Hariette JONES born 17/11/1830 baptized 25/1/1831 dau of Edward Jones and Sophia
William JONES born 22/01/1832 baptized 24/01/1832 son of Edward Jones and Sophia 
 
Henrietta could be Harriette , William is William ? , Alfred
 A N  Palmer got it wrong as well 
Edward Jones architect died at his home in Queen Street next to the Linen Hall April 1st 1833
 

[Jo Harding]

There is a handwritten note on one of the pages of the Will of Edward Jones which states he ("The Testator") died on 1st April 1835.

Jo.

[wilcoxon]

1828-9 Pigot's Directory of North Wales.
Edward Jones, Architect , Queen St.

[nzenigma]

Has this c****d it all up  or is there a mistake again with the years...
No. 516
William JONES (s/o Edward JONES) died 1832 infant
Henrietta JONES (d/o Edward JONES) died 1832 infant
Edward JONES (father of above, of Wrexham) died April 1st 1835 aged 30 years
Alfred JONES (s/o Edward) died?   infant...

Sorry to c****d up the good work  but, this only leaves Sophia Elizabeth and Edward George surviving. Edward's will states, inter alia: "...bequeath my said real and personal estates [onto] and among all my children including my son Edward..."

Regards Gary