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William Hopkins family, Bettws, 1850 in Llangadock, 1860 Ystradgynlais
« on: Friday 04 February 11 02:54 GMT (UK) »
I seek information on Wales family of my grandmother, Harriet Hopkins b. march 1867 in Ystradgynlais, Breconshire, Wales and immigrated to USA in 1883. married William F. Mayo in 1889.
Would appreciate any data or records on her parents and ancestors and her sisterís families and descendants.

based on Wales census records her parents and sisters were:
father: William Hopkin or Hopkins b. abt 1817, Bettws, Carmarthenshire, d. 1898
mother: believe Margaret Lewis b. abt 1823, Llangadock, Carmarthenshire
believe married 1844, Llanely

sister: Anne Hopkins b. abt 1845, Llangadock, Carmarthenshire, 1866 married Morgan  Morgan b. abt 1846, Crynant, Glamorgan. they lived in Garth, Lower Ystradgynlais & had 10 children
sister: Martha Hopkins, b 20aug1848, Llangadock, immigrated to USA abt 1866
sister: Mary Hopkins b.1851, Llangadock
sister: Rebecca Hopkins b.1858, Ystradgynlais, Breconshire, may have married John Llewellen Jones or George Thomas
sister: Priscilla Hopkins b.1860, Ystradgynlais, Breconshire, abt 1886 married Lewis Jones. b. abt 1861. they lived on Caemawr Farm, Ystradgynlais and children William, Margaret, Jasercel, Mary, David & Edgar
sister: Margaret Hopkins, no information
sister: Eunice Hopkins, no information

I would appreciate hearing from anyone with information on these families. Thanks
Hopkin(s), Jones, Morgan: Brecosshire
Hopkin(s), Lewis: Carmarthenshire
Hopkin(s), Jones, Morgan: Glamorgan

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Re: William Hopkins family, Bettws, 1850 in Llangadock, 1860 Ystradgynlais
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 February 11 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat!  ;D

Do you have a birth certificate for any of the children? This would confirm the mother's maiden name.

Harriet Hopkins june qtr 1867 Neath vol 11a pg 562

You can get a copy cert from the GRO
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

As the family are in Llangadock in 1851, the most likely marriage is
William Hopkins june qtr 1844 Llandovery vol 26 pg 869 with Margaret Lewis on the same page.
A copy of the marriage certificate should give the names & occupations of both fathers.

In the 1841 census it's difficult to identify people with common surnames as   ages are rounded down and there's no places of birth.
This is is the only Margaret Lewis I can see in Llangadock
Twyn, Dyffryncydrich, Llangadock HO107/1386/14 folio 19 pg 11
David Lewis 50 ag lab
Martha 55
Margaret 15
all born in county

Dyffryn Ceidrich is now known as Bethlehem after its independent chapel.

By the way, there's no need to post the same request on more than one board. It just makes for duplication of effort.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William Hopkins family, Bettws, 1850 in Llangadock, 1860 Ystradgynlais
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 27 March 13 15:14 GMT (UK) »
My great grandmother was Anne Hopkins who married Morgan Morgan and lived in Llwynbedw Farm in Cwmgiedd Ystrradgynlais.  My grandfather Samuel was their son. I have details regarding the Morgan family, William and Margaret, Priscilla and Rebecca.

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Re: William Hopkins family, Bettws, 1850 in Llangadock, 1860 Ystradgynlais
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 27 March 13 19:48 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat!   ;D

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William Hopkins family, Bettws, 1850 in Llangadock, 1860 Ystradgynlais
« Reply #4 on: Friday 07 June 13 23:05 BST (UK) »
I would like any information on Anne Hopkins and Morgan Morgan. I am researching their
youngest son Thomas Morgan. Any information would be extremely welcomed!


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Re: William Hopkins family, Bettws, 1850 in Llangadock, 1860 Ystradgynlais
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 July 14 21:18 BST (UK) »
Thomas Morgan was born in 1893 died of the flu on 13th October 1918  and is buried in the graveyard at Yorath Chapel, Cwmgiedd. His parents Ann (nee Hopkin) and Morgan Morgan had 11 children and lived in Llwynbedw Farm, Cwmgiedd, Ystradgynlais. If you let me know the information you require I will do my best to reply.

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Re: William Hopkins family, Bettws, 1850 in Llangadock, 1860 Ystradgynlais
« Reply #6 on: Monday 06 November 17 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Not sure how to start a new topic but I was after more information on Morgan John Morgan 1845-1911 (my 2nd great grandfather) and family. My great grandmother was his daughter Mary 1873-1964. I have the basics that his father was Evan Morgan but no further. My mum really wants to know more about her Great Aunt Priscilla, as Mary came over from Australia in the  1940s to visit her and mum said she was her grans favourite sister. When Mary came back from Wales, she came back with a plaque of a ship which was handed down to my  mother and will come to me, I was also hoping to find more info on this. Mum was told that Morgan Morgan took in his brothers or sisters children after the parents died, she thought it was the younger ones. Thanks

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Re: William Hopkins family, Bettws, 1850 in Llangadock, 1860 Ystradgynlais
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 16:21 GMT (UK) »
census entries to start off

1891 Llwynbedw farm, Ynysygwich, Ystradgynlais RG12/4467 folio 80 pg 21
Morgan Morgan head mar 46 farmer b. Glam
Anne wife 46 b. Carmarthenshire
William son 21 collier
Samuel son 19 collier
Mary dau 17
Margaret dau 15
Priscila dau 13
Martha dau 12
Evan son 10
Harriet dau 7
Morgan J son 4
Thomas W son 8 months
David Jones nephew 20 collier
all born Ystradgynlais unless noted

1881 Llwynybedw Farm RG11/5346 folio 95 pg 28
Morgan head 35 farmer of 150 acres b. Crynant
Ann wife 36 b. Llangadock
Hannah dau 14
William son 11
Samuel son 9
Marry dau 7
Margaret dau 5
Prissila dau 3
Martha dau 2
Evan father widower 82 retired father b. Crynant
David Jones nephew 10
all born Ystradgynlais except where noted

birth reg
Priscilla Morgans dec qtr 1877 Pontardawe vol 11a pg 629 mother's maiden name Hopkins

marriage reg
Morgan Morgan dec qtr 1866 Neath vol 11a pg 841 with Ann Hopkins the only other name on the page

1861 Llwynbedw RG9/4089 folio 90 pg 5
Evan Morgan 61 farmer of 150 acres
Mary wife 58
Ann dau 22
Richard son 19
Morgan son 15
Evan grandson 2
all born Cadoxton

1851 Llwynybedw HO107/2464 folio 100 pg 4
Evan head 50 farmer
Mary wife 47
Samuel son 24
Mary dau 21
Evan son 18
Hannah dau 15
Anne dau 13
Richard son 10
Morgan son 4
all born Cadoxton, all children noted as 'work on the farm'

From the GRO index, mother's maiden name for Mary appears to be Morgan. Only one other child on 1841 census, John, enumerated as 15, so probably this marriage in Cadoxton juxta Neath
Evan Morgan & Mary Morgan 24 June 1824 both otp, witnesses John Morgan & William Morgan. All sign except Mary.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: William Hopkins family, Bettws, 1850 in Llangadock, 1860 Ystradgynlais
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 07 November 17 20:04 GMT (UK) »
baptisms for 2 oldest sons
John Morgan bp 20 Feb 1825 in Cadoxton son of Evan, farmer, & Mary, abode Glynbedwas

Samuel Morgan bp 22 April 1827, born 1 April 1827, son of Evan, farmer, & Mary abode Clynbedwas

non-conformist baptisms at Capel y Cwm Calvinistic Methodist
Mary bp 14 Feb 1830, born 7 Nov 1829, dau of Evan Morgan & Mary Morgan
Evan bp 21 Oct 1832, born 12 Oct 1832, son of Evan Morgan & Mary Morgan
Hannah, bp 7 June 1835, born 2 May 1835, dau of Evan Morgan & Mary Morgan

1901 census Priscilla is working as a cook in Llandeilo in the household of William H Lloyd
Possible marriage reg as Priscilla Morgans dec qtr 1902 Pontardawe vol 11a pg 1441 to John Evans or David Morgan so this could be her married to David living in Ammanford

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7N1-X1M
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb