John Pole b.1829

[Dizzifish]

Hi Richard....

I was just going to tell you exactly that!

It will only be by picking things apart that will sort this out.

[RRYFS]

Hi Sheila

Still trying to take it all in - I messed up first reply, as I was looking at 1885 Elizabeth, who was 87. If you put Elizabeth in freeBMD it doesn't find Eliza, but if you put Eliza, it does find Elizabeth.
Charles Pole (b.1794) had a sister Sarah (b.1793).

Richard

[Dizzifish]

It will be interesting to see what the certificate comes up with.....if it is Charles born 1794 then that would have made him 35 if he married in 1829.....if it was the Charles born abt 1810/11 then he would have only been about 19.

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting’s. Again . ….Richard ..

Not sure if you already have this ?

St: Mary the Virgin & St: John the Baptist Church. Rothley.

1850.Entry No’. 149. 2nd December.

John Pole. 21. Bachelor. Frame Work Knitter.
Abode ….Rothley.
Father Charles Pole…Policeman.

Martha Brown. 21. Spinster. Rothley.
Father :~ George Brown. Labourer.

Married in this Church by Banns by Wm. Arians. Vicar.

John signed by his signature.
Martha by her Mark. X.

Wit’s :~
John Sleath or Heath. …not too sure
Eliza Scholfield.



I’ll be scanning those two pages from the family Bible of
William Pole
Presented to him 13th. July 1845.
by the teachers of the General Baptist
Sabbath School Belgrave.
I hope to send it to your E-mail some time over this weekend

MIKE. …..

[RRYFS]

Hi Mike

Brilliant again, thanks. I had the wedding, but not the father's occupation, so that proves that the John we were looking at is the family in the census.
I think the William who received the bible was my GG Grandfather's half brother. My GGF was also William, so why they used the name again 20 years later, I have no idea, unless the oldest four didn't approve of their stepmother.

Now waiting in great anticipation!

Thanks again

Richard

[Mike from Leicester]

Scans winging their way to your "  in box " as I type this .....

MIKE. ...

[RRYFS]

Hi Mike

Thanks a lot for that - not the William I thought it was, though I have got details of that family (though not all of them). Not sure where they fit, so I shall try a little more exploration - William's mother was Elizabeth, b. 1808ish in Lubenham. A link will turn up, as all Poles are related in the end!

Richard

[Mike from Leicester]

Greeting’s Again. ….Richard……

Going on Williams Bapt. Year with a Mother of an Elizabeth .

Then a Marriage worthy of Note ? :~

1829.
St: Peter’s Parish Church. Belgrave.

Robert Pole. ~ Elizabeth GOUDE.
13th. October.
By Banns.

MIKE. …..

[RRYFS]

Hi Mike - yes I think it is them, I have them on the 1841 and 1851 at Mill Hill, and Post Office, Belgrave respectively. By 1861, I assume Robert has died, as Elizabeth is living with William at Leicester Road, Belgrave with children, William, Selina Jane (the give away) and Frederick (aged 4M), but no wife.
On reflection, there is a Robert living at Mill Hill in 1861 (with Richard Pole as lodger - he is direct line to Yvonne who I met on RC), so perhaps Elizabeth is with William to look after the children. If they are connected to Richard, then they definitely fit into my tree somewhere, as Yvonne and I have worked out where our lines come together (In the mid 1700s!).
When I have a minute I will try to find William's marriage, which may lead to a reason why there was no wife in 1861.
Thanks again
Richard