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Completed with Thanks - LINGS Turkish Delight
« on: Monday 07 February 11 01:52 GMT (UK) »
My Great Great aunt Eleanor Emma Pelizzari (nee Sayers) and her husband Giacomo Pietro Pelizzari (married 1907 London)  apparently made Turkish Delight in their London home.  Giacomo died in 1926 and Eleanor remarried.

A niece of Eleanor's in New Zealand kept a tin of the Turkish Delight  [see photo]  and it has the name "Lings Eastern Dream Turkish Delight" on the cover.    Eleanor's niece wrote a note saying Eleanor and her "Italian husband" made the candy from their home and that was how Lings turkish delight started off.

There is no reference online for this brand, except the current Ling label (est in 1922 by a Greek-British man).
Does anyone know more about this candy's origins? Or indeed, the Pelizzari family who made it?
Any leads would be greatly appreciated
Cheers,
J
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Re: Pelizzari and the Turkish Delight
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 February 11 02:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello J  :)

I hope the story is true, as Turkish Delight is my favourite treat  ;) ;D

Have you found the family in 1911 - if so, what does it say about occupations?

Have you had a look in local papers from the time, to see if they advertised?  Do you think it may have started with another name - why the name "Lings"?

Sorry, no answers, only questions, but hopefully they are helpful ones :)

Cheers
Prue

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Re: Pelizzari and the Turkish Delight
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 February 11 03:50 GMT (UK) »
Hello Prue,
it would be great if the family anecdote checks out yes.  So far I haven't seen a copy of the 1911 census record (budget constraints I am afraid), but yes, I guess that would give me a clue to their occupations.
I don't know how to access London papers from the early 1900's. Are these available for free online??

I am not sure where "Lings" comes from no. Would be good to know tho.

Thanks,
J
Scotland: Lanark and Stirling: BARRON, LOW, RAE, BRAIDWOOD,  MILLER  
                Isle of Bute: CURRIE, BARR, SIMPSON, CRAWFORD
England: London (Hoxton/St Luke): BOOTH, FRANKLIN
               Essex: WAINWRIGHT
               Bedfordshire: DENNIS, BRAYBROOK, PEACOCK
               Sussex: TULLY, SAYERS (Surrey also)
Ireland:  (unknown region) TULLY/TULLEMORE (poss)
               Antrim: AGNEW, MONTGOMERY

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Re: Pelizzari and the Turkish Delight
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 February 11 04:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi J,

According to the only source about Lings Turkish Delight that I can find online:

Lings - Established 1922:
The founder, Frederik J Ling, served in the Middle East during World War One. When he returned to the UK he perfected a recipe...
(http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bq1/)

I wonder whether or not the family story has become mixed up with the story of Lings confectionery? 

Newspapers might be available from local archive offices...someone else will hopefully come along to enlighten you further as I'm not sure, having not had the need to look at them myself :)

Cheers
Prue



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Re: Pelizzari and the Turkish Delight
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 February 11 06:22 GMT (UK) »
Hello Prue,
it would be great if the family anecdote checks out yes.  So far I haven't seen a copy of the 1911 census record (budget constraints I am afraid), but yes, I guess that would give me a clue to their occupations.

1911 Census information has been removed. Please see

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,355484.0.html

The index is free to search and there are lots of suggestions on this thread:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,492718.0.html



 ;D Ted
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Re: Pelizzari and the Turkish Delight
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 February 11 09:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi J,

According to the only source about Lings Turkish Delight that I can find online:

Lings - Established 1922:
The founder, Frederik J Ling, served in the Middle East during World War One. When he returned to the UK he perfected a recipe...
(http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bq1/)


That also states that he won a Gold Medal for "excellence in the manufacture of Turkish Delight which agrees with the wording on the photograph, so it looks as though the family story is not correct  :(

Stan
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Re: Pelizzari and the Turkish Delight
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 February 11 10:11 GMT (UK) »
It's possible that Frederik Ling didn't actually get in the kitchen and work on different recipes himself.  Could your relative have done the practical work of making the Turkish Delight at home while the company was starting up?  Did they live in the same area?
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Re: Pelizzari and the Turkish Delight
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 February 11 11:24 GMT (UK) »
There is in 1901 a Frederick Ling in Fulham, confectioner's shopkeeper, who has a wife Mabel.
From freebmd, she might have been Mabel Jane Sayers (married 1900).

So quite possibly Giacomo and Eleanor worked with/for their brother in law?
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Re: Pelizzari and the Turkish Delight
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 February 11 12:53 GMT (UK) »
There is no reference online for this brand, except the current Ling label (est in 1922 by a Greek-British man).

Re: David Politi

The Old Politi Turkish Delight Works at Stamford Hill
Location: 10 Manor Road, Stamford Hill, London N16, England


"In 1872 the Greek Jew, David Politi, emigrated to Britain to evade persecution but it is not clear whether he came from the actual Hellenic Kingdom or from Ottoman-occupied Aegean lands.

Like many of his race, he settled in Stamford Hill and developed his Turkish Delight specialism within the local candy industry."
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