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Re: Pelizzari and the Turkish Delight
« Reply #9 on: Monday 07 February 11 19:39 GMT (UK) »
There is in 1901 a Frederick Ling in Fulham, confectioner's shopkeeper, who has a wife Mabel.
From freebmd, she might have been Mabel Jane Sayers (married 1900).

So quite possibly Giacomo and Eleanor worked with/for their brother in law?

Oh, nice find jorose!  :D

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Re: Pelizzari and the Turkish Delight
« Reply #10 on: Monday 07 February 11 20:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi


The National Archives

HO 144/1502/369029 Nationality and Naturalisation: Pelizzari, Giacomo Pietro, from Italy. Resident in Willesden. Certificate 3,450 issued 30 October 1918.


1891 census RG12 50 folio 50
16 Melmoth Place Fulham
Edwin Sayers 42 Head Married Carman Reigate Surrey
Jane Sayers 46 Wife Married Lindfield Sussex
Edwin I H Sayers 19 Son Cab driver Wandsworth Surrey
Mabel Sayers 16 Daughter Dressmaker Reigate Surrey
Mirian Sayers 12 Daughter Lambeth
Elenor Sayers 7 Daughter Fulham
Hariette Sayers 5 Daughter Fulham
Ruth Sayers 3 Daughter Fulham

Births Jun 1874 Sayers Mabel Jane Reigate 2a 161
Births Sep 1883 Sayers Eleanor Emma Fulham 1a 307



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Re: Pelizzari and the Turkish Delight
« Reply #11 on: Monday 07 February 11 21:09 GMT (UK) »
There is in 1901 a Frederick Ling in Fulham, confectioner's shopkeeper, who has a wife Mabel.
From freebmd, she might have been Mabel Jane Sayers (married 1900).

So quite possibly Giacomo and Eleanor worked with/for their brother in law?

Blimey! I think you are on to something with this one.
Mabel Jane was an older sister of Eleanor, and a younger sister of my ancestor Caroline Wainwright (she had at least 7 sisters).

I always assumed the marriage for Mabel Jane was to Matthew M WALLACE on that page of the folio. Again, not being able to view 1911 census records has left me in the dark a bit.

Do you suppose Frederick LING is the "Italian" that my ancestor Caroline mentions in her note about the box of Turkish Delight? Or can we just assume Eleanor and her husband "helped" their brother in law with making it?
The family note is vague, but it mentions the sister who is married to the "Italian?" husband as the one who made the confectionery in their home.

Eleanor and Giacomo appeared to have lived in the Willesden area of Middlesex, London. The Sayers sisters were all from Fulham, so it's possible Mabel Jane lived there after marriage.

Wow, this has me more intrigued than ever. Can we find more about Frederick Ling and his family online I wonder??
This could be a new link to a family we knew nothing about!

Thanks HEAPS to everyone who has contributed to this thread. You are all fantastic.
Cheers,
J
p.s Thanks Prue for showing the 1891 census - I do have this and the others ( exclu. 1911) already (my ancestor Caroline isn't with the family in 1891 because she is a Domestic Servant elsewhere.)

*added later:  Just had a thought that the mention of the Italian husband has been a red herring, and probably my ancestors dau getting her aunts muddled up.  I think we can safely say Mabel Jane is the sister the note refers to. So nothing to do with Pelizzari at all.
Thanks again to everyone.
Scotland: Lanark and Stirling: BARRON, LOW, RAE, BRAIDWOOD,  MILLER  
                Isle of Bute: CURRIE, BARR, SIMPSON, CRAWFORD
England: London (Hoxton/St Luke): BOOTH, FRANKLIN
               Essex: WAINWRIGHT
               Bedfordshire: DENNIS, BRAYBROOK, PEACOCK
               Sussex: TULLY, SAYERS (Surrey also)
Ireland:  (unknown region) TULLY/TULLEMORE (poss)
               Antrim: AGNEW, MONTGOMERY

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Re: Pelizzari and the Turkish Delight
« Reply #12 on: Monday 07 February 11 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Turkish Delight was first made in the 15th century in the Ottoman Empire.
RIP 1949-10th January 2013

Best Wishes,  Nick.

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Re: LINGS Turkish Delight
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 08 February 11 09:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi

On a free search of the 1911 census Frederick James Ling (died 1952 aged 81 - will mentioned in The Times and an acknowledgement he founded Lings Limited) and Mabel Jane are in Watford registration district.

http://www.1911census.co.uk/

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The 1901 census gives Frederick's birthplace as Hammersmith

Births Mar 1871   Ling  Frederick James    Kensington  1a 216

1st March 1874 St Matthew West Kensington
Frederick James Ling  parents Daniel and Eliza 2 Myrtle Cottage Ceylon Road, father's occupation railway porter

Birthplaces of Daniel and Eliza were Suffolk and Norfolk.


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Re: LINGS Turkish Delight
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 08 February 11 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Valda,
that is all really solid info for Frederick. I've spent most of the afternoon at my local library searching Ancestry.com for him, and basically looks like I've found the same records - which means I'm on the right path  :)
Cheers,
J
Scotland: Lanark and Stirling: BARRON, LOW, RAE, BRAIDWOOD,  MILLER  
                Isle of Bute: CURRIE, BARR, SIMPSON, CRAWFORD
England: London (Hoxton/St Luke): BOOTH, FRANKLIN
               Essex: WAINWRIGHT
               Bedfordshire: DENNIS, BRAYBROOK, PEACOCK
               Sussex: TULLY, SAYERS (Surrey also)
Ireland:  (unknown region) TULLY/TULLEMORE (poss)
               Antrim: AGNEW, MONTGOMERY

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Re: Completed with Thanks - LINGS Turkish Delight
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 21 August 14 12:09 BST (UK) »
This came through on Facebook Rootschat page and I looked because the name Ling is very much a Suffolk name, I have several friends researching this name. Then I see that you have found a link back to Suffolk and Norfolk.

Very interesting story  ;)

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Re: Completed with Thanks - LINGS Turkish Delight
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 21 August 14 14:41 BST (UK) »
We love highlighting interesting stories SM ;D
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Re: Completed with Thanks - LINGS Turkish Delight
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 21 August 14 14:46 BST (UK) »
I remember Ling's Cigarettes, not connected surely!

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