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Re: Francis
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 23 March 17 19:50 GMT (UK) »
It's great to see so many people researching this family.My gggg grandparents are Alice Francis and Henry Smith,I'm descended from their daughter Harriet Smith who married William Moore.I've been enjoying finding out snippets of information about this family.

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Re: Francis
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 16:40 BST (UK) »
It's great to see so many people researching this family.My gggg grandparents are Alice Francis and Henry Smith,I'm descended from their daughter Harriet Smith who married William Moore.I've been enjoying finding out snippets of information about this family.

I'm descended from Harriet's younger brother Isaac (born +/- 1852; Easington Lane, Durham); described variously as blacksmith/tinner, he married Sarah Ellen Herron in Shadforth, 1878). Would love to contact my distant cousins and share info!
Deering, Cottle (Ireland)
Smith, Johnson, Herron, Francis (Irish traveller/Romany; Ire/UK)

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Re: Francis
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 13 September 17 23:40 BST (UK) »
It's good to hear from you Mary.I've looked at my notes and see that Isaac and Sarah had lots of children,which one are you descended from?Do you live in the north east?I live in Scotland but was born in Murton which is close to Easington Lane.

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Isaac and Sarah Smith of Easington Lane
« Reply #30 on: Thursday 14 September 17 01:59 BST (UK) »
Yeeks, I'm still trying to work out how this site operates! Apologies if I'm posting anything in the wrong places!

Yep, Isaac Smith and Sarah nee Herron had a bunch of kids. I'm descended from Cecilia Winifred who died in 1972, when I was nearly ten years old; I have fond memories of her teaching me to knit "gypsy-style" with the left needle tucked under the left oxter. One day she gave me a plastic comb and told me Auntie Gwen was trying to poison her with Domestos, but I think we can disregard a certain amount of doitiness.

Cecilia Winifred Smith appears on the 1891 census as a young child (born circa 1883 in Shadforth) and on the 1901 census as a 17-yr-old servant to the Crofts of Durham. I remember the family row when she died in 1972, because one of her daughters produced a birth certificate showing her d.o.b. was 14 July 1882 and we all thought she was only 88! Schtumpf - well, we all tell a few fibs now and again, don't we?

There is somewhat of a gap between Cecilia Winifred's appearance as a servant in Durham in 1901 and her reappearance in 1907 in Leeds, when she married Joseph Johnson. If you accept family legend, Cecilia Winifred (my mother's mother's mother) was at this point engaged to Sam (my father's father's father). But then she dumped Sam and married Joseph instead because Joseph was a groom and coachman and had big piles of horses! Way to turn a girl's head!

I'm actually wondering if she acquired a criminal record - she wouldn't have been the first servant to do a runner! I must investigate this a bit more! I'd also be interested if anyone has information on where this name "Cecilia Winifred" suddenly comes from; it's not a family name but there was another little girl in the same village (Shadforth, Durham) called Cecilia Winifred Thubron (aka Thuborn, Thurbon, Thornber, etc) born the year before my Cecilia Winifred. Interesting, but I can't find a connection.     

As to Me, Myself, I - well, I was born and raised in Yorkshire, but I'm now actually living in County Meath, Ireland. No matter how much a gypsy is settled, there's always some kind of pull to be somewhere else!

Deering, Cottle (Ireland)
Smith, Johnson, Herron, Francis (Irish traveller/Romany; Ire/UK)

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Re: Francis
« Reply #31 on: Friday 15 September 17 11:29 BST (UK) »
from " Houses of Wexford" (by kind permission of David Rowe and Eithne Scallan)
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Francis family of Rathjarney is mentioned and by marriage to the Hantons of Ballywitch;

Names mentioned are;
Claude
Claude Dermot Le Bert
May
Jake
Katherine
Thomas
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