Collard Tredegar

[djunna]

Hello

Can anyone help me with any info on my Gt Gt Gt Grand father John Collard 1853 Bedwellty.

I Have him on the 1871 census but it shows his parents as David and Margaret Robert?
Cant understand the surname changes?  I Know he later on became a butcher and had a shop on Commercial Road/St. His son also John (1876) Later on became a Master Butcher/ Slaughterman at the same shop i believe, Before being knocked down by an army motorcyclist on Sirhowy Hill? in 1942 ( Is this nearby?)

The family later on went to live at 33 Charles St Tredegar. My Gt Grandmother Lena ( John 1876 Daughter )Grew up with Nye Bevan who i think lived Next door. I was told last week at a Funeral that they also kept a pet Monkey at Charles St???   Please god let this be true!!!

Thanks all

Darren

[steve100]

Hi Darren, what are his parents names, are they David and Margaret Collard?

[djunna]

Hiya Steve


I Would think so but when i looked on the 1871 census i get this

David Robert    37
Margaret Robert    39
John Collard    18
Edward Collard    16
Sarah Ann Collard    13
William Collard    10
James A Collard    8
David Collard    5


I wonder if his name was David Robert Collard and there was only room for him to put David Robert. then he made a mistake with Margaret, putting Robert instead of Collard?



Thanks Darren

[steve100]

I had seen the 1871 census. Do you have a copy of their marriage certificate, might tell you David's middle name?

[Priscilla]

Maybe the Collard children were from Margaret's first marriage - Mr Robert being her second husband.

[djunna]

Ahhhh,  id not thought of her being married twice, Thanks Priscilla,   stumped now



Darren

[KGarrad]

There is a death of a John Collard, June 1863, Abergavenny district - which included Tredegar
Also a William Collard, Sep 1864, also Abergavenny


Those older (35+) Collard males left in Monmouthshire all seem to have been born in Somerset.
Presumably coal miners transferring over the water once the Bristol & Somerset mines began to close?

[wozzle]

There is a death of a John Collard, June 1863, Abergavenny district - which included Tredegar
Also a William Collard, Sep 1864, also Abergavenny


Those older (35+) Collard males left in Monmouthshire all seem to have been born in Somerset.
Presumably coal miners transferring over the water once the Bristol & Somerset mines began to close?

there is a john collard aged 64 in abergavenny dist in 1861 he is with wife mary
this is probably the one who dies in 1864

there is a marriage in 1868 in bedwelty of a margaret collard  on the same page is a david probert

[KGarrad]

Looks like a birth certificate of (at least!) one of the children is called for.

That will show father's name and mother's maiden name (hopefully).