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Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir - More Info
« Reply #18 on: Monday 06 February 17 21:03 GMT (UK) »
You have to keep an open mind with this genealogy stuff, I haven't found a James though, or an Unknown. (Registered without a first name)

You would need to check out James Fitzgerald more to make sure it's the correct couple as the census.
It's not unusual for people to make up father's when they are getting married but this census and marriage are still only a possible.

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Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir - More Info
« Reply #19 on: Monday 06 February 17 22:27 GMT (UK) »
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Carrick_On_Suir/Church_Street/1694051/

This looks like the same Mr Fitzgerald 10 years earlier, the Fitzgerald kids ages roughly add up and James was a widower.

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Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir - More Info
« Reply #20 on: Monday 06 February 17 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Looks good.
A Bridget wife of James died in July 1903 with the same address as James on the marriage to Ellen
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05651/4590952.pdf

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Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir - More Info
« Reply #21 on: Monday 06 February 17 23:09 GMT (UK) »
Ellen gets a stable home for her and her sons, James get a mother for his children, but is her son Patrick the correct Patrick?
Do you know if James married, it would be interesting to see his cert to see what is down for his father?

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Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir - More Info
« Reply #22 on: Monday 06 February 17 23:18 GMT (UK) »
Hmm, I just looked into that and I may have gone off target. James Shea born 1891 making him too old to be the same step son. , I might rewind a bit.

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« Reply #23 on: Monday 06 February 17 23:45 GMT (UK) »
Hmm, I just looked into that and I may have gone off target. James Shea born 1891 making him too old to be the same step son. , I might rewind a bit.

The James O'Shea from the other thread, mother Ellen, no father.
Have another look at the original image of the 1911 Census, could James' age be 19 and 11 months, rather than 12 and 11 months.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003370765/


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Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir - More Info
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 07 February 17 10:13 GMT (UK) »
Meanwhile, on the marriage Ellen's father is James Shea a shoemaker.
There was a James a shoemaker in Carrick on Suir about the right time.
Birth of James Shea.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1865/03550/2306837.pdf
Early births can be a bit hit and miss so Ellen may not have a cert but a cross reference with church records might prove successful.

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Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir - More Info
« Reply #25 on: Friday 10 February 17 23:48 GMT (UK) »
Getting back to Ellen's family, I think these are her parents in 1901, even though David's birth place changes.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Carrick_Beg_Urban_Carrick_on_Suir_Town/Leaf_Road/1693562/

The ages are too young but when Julia dies in 1906, it's says she is 65, which seems far more likely.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05552/4557805.pdf

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Re: O'Shea - Carrick On Suir - More Info
« Reply #26 on: Saturday 11 February 17 07:16 GMT (UK) »
Although the birth county has changed, carrick on suir is half in Tipperary and half in Waterford, so still possible. But I'm missing the link to David and Julia, what makes you think these are her parents?