Old photo for dating restoration and identification??

[rbell35]

Please see attached photo. I have no idea where this taken but I feel England to be likely. It was in the Pattie collection and they came from Lowick in Northumberland ~ 1861. Any ideas?? The merchants name on the shop is 'Robert Murray, General Merchant'. Any idea on the dating of this one? Any restoration helpful too...thanks, Rob

[cazza59]

Hi Rob

Is "Merchant" an English term, ie I would thought more "grocer" for England, not sure, but it doesn't sound right to me but I could be wrong, usually am! 

Cheers
Caroline

[ScouseBoy]

That type of building reminds me of towns such as Castle Douglas in the Dumfries and Galloway region of scotland.

[rsinbad]

a bit of colour

[JustLooking]

Hi

Buildings like that are all over the Borders region of Scotland.

If the Patties  were from Lowick,  the photos might well  be from the Berwickshire/Roxburghshire/Selkirkshire area. Also, you might consider North Northumberland as well.

As for a date, maybe circa 1900 - 1905 ish or maybe a bit later, depending on the woman at the back's skirt length. I can't quite see if she's standing on the step or her ankles are showing. If they're showing, then it's  around 1912-1914 


JL

PS - Cazza,  General Merchant was a common name for shopkeepers who sold most things. I think the term gradually fell from use in the 1940s-50s but it  can  still be  seen today 

[rbell35]

Thanks folks much appreciated. Cheers, Rob

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1891 census RG12-4270 Folio 98vs
Hinds Row, Lowick NBL
 then
Main Street (Grocer and Drapers Shop)
Catherine OLIVER Head Widow 42 Grocer & Draper London
William Jaques do Son 15 Assistant do NBL Lowick
Sarah Eliza do Daur 13 NBL do
John Robert COX Boarder Single 25 Assistant Grocer etc? LIN Boston
Main Street (Grocer & Drapers Shop)
Robert MURRAY Head Married 55 General Merchant NBL Ford
Jane Isabella do Wife Married 43 NBL Lowick

I expect the houses may stil be seen using Streetview since they look well built.

Bryan

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1901 census RG13-4848 Folio 97
Main Street, Lowick
Robert MURRAY Head M 65 General Merchant NBL Ford
Jane I do Wife M 53 NBL do
Next house is Thomas PRINGLE Draper & Shoe Dealer

In 1911 Jane Isabella is a widow aged 64 Shopkeeper China-Ware born NBL Lowick Beal living with her Niece Annie E FORMAN Single age 18 born NBL Norham.
It is s two room house with the address as Lowick Beal Northumberland. Later crossed out it said Jane was married for 39 years and had 1 child who had died.
Neighbours were a Plasterer and a Quarryman. After the Quarryman is Stephen Smith MOLE Grocer and then Ann MINNIE Grocer & Draper then Mary HOGG Saddlery Business etc

This is probably the death of Robert from FreeBMD
Deaths Mar 1906
Murray Robert 70 Glendale 10b 307

Based on location of the White Swan Inn being six houses away in 1901 I think this is where the shop used to be. The house still standing is the one on the right of the photo. Might be wrong of course.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&q=lowick+berwick+on+tweed&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Lowick,+Berwick-upon-Tweed,+Cumbria,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&ll=55.650504,-1.978279&spn=0,0.010793&t=h&z=17&layer=c&cbll=55.650471,-1.978431&panoid=si1PxiCLznDlAYYENLuyAQ&cbp=12,11.03,,0,0.7

Bryan

[chinakay]

Agree with JustLooking's date...about 1900 or a few years later. She's standing on the step

Cheers,
China