tracing thomas/ lewis family tree Tumble

[dorset eleanor]

New at this, so be patient. Have been tracing my family tree, but come to a standstill on my fathers welsh side. Quite normal I suppose with those surnames! My father David Noir Thomas was born in tumble, llanelli and stayed there until he married and moved to Dorset. His mother was Margaret(nee Lewis born 1908 ) and married Harold Francis. Previous to that she was married to Joseph Thomas born 1908 .My grandmother margaret ( everyone called her 'mag' in Tumble) ran a shop with her 2nd husband harold in Bethester road. I know she came from a family of bakers and my grandfather joseph was from a mining family. Have his fathers name as Hugh w Thomas on his wedding certificate and my grandmothers father was called william. wouls like to know if anyone should remember the family and could help me find out their mothers names. Worth a try I suppose as it was a small village!! many thanks

[CaroleW]

Hi and welcome to Rootschat

As Margaret and Joseph were both born in 1908 - have you checked for them on the 1911 census which is pay per view only

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

[dorset eleanor]

Yes, Spent £10 on Genes Reunited with no luck!

[CaroleW]

Margaret had a middle christian name - what was it?

Marriages June qtr 1930   
 
Margaret A Lewis  Carmarthen  11a 2460   
Joseph Thomas  Carmarthen  11a 2460

When she married Harold Francis in 1952 - she is again shown as Margaret A

What year did she die and was it in Llanelly Dyfed?

There is a Margaret Ann Francis death in the June qtr 1979 and her birthdate is shown as 16.11.1908

[dorset eleanor]

Her middle name was ann. She died june 9th 1979. in Carmarthen. She married on june 10th 1930. Thanks for repying. Am a member of ancestry .co.uk, and have her marriage certificate. There are no living relatives left to ask, and my mum cant remember much.

[CaroleW]

With a surname like Lewis in Wales - middle names can be a godsend.  This is probably her birth reg

Births December qtr 1908   
Margaret Anne Lewis   Carmarthen  11a 1298

[osprey]

No idea what the Genes version of 1911 is like, but the one Carole gave the link to above is very adaptable if you use the advanced search. Try searching for Margaret Lewis born 1909 (she was born late in 1908) living in Carmarthenshire, registration district Llanelly with William as the first name of someone else in the household.

the birth reg in 1908 looks very likely...

[CaroleW]

The free 1911 index shows a Margaret Ann Lewis aged 2 living in Llanelly Carmarthenshire

It matches to a William Lewis in the same household

Follow the instructions below

USING THE FREE 1911 INDEX TO DETERMINE THE CORRECT HOUSEHOLD

http://www.1911census.co.uk/search/tnaform.aspx

Once you find a possible match - make a note of the county and district in which the person was living

Return to the index and in PERSONAL DETAILS - just put the surname of the family - nothing else

In LOCATION - Select the county and below it - type in the district

In OTHER MEMBERS OF THE HOUSEHOLD - show the full name of the person you have found on the index

Click SEARCH

You will have to buy credits to view the full entry - the above instructions will only help to possibly show others of the same name in the same household

[dorset eleanor]

thanks for helping meout, but I cant seem to get anywhere. Just tried to go on the free 1911 census as you said, but just keeps coming up with'cant find any records!!' What am I doing wrong?