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Victoria(possibly but area not def) death+marriage-SMEE, Winifred
« on: Thursday 24 February 11 16:43 GMT (UK) »
Winifred, was the sister of my Mum-in-law, she was known to the family as Winnie. She was the daug of Edward James Smee (1882-1943) & Harriet Harford (1883-1975). Winnie born 1914 @ Newcastle area of England. Her illegitimate son was born 1932 Newcastle. Winnie emigrated to Australia , on her own, onboard SS "New Australia", sailing from Southampton - Melbourne, 29/8/1951, at the time her address was given as 4 Caroline Cottages, Oxhey, Herts, England which was the home of my husband's parents where she had been staying.
It is possible she may have returned to live in the UK briefly during the 1960s but no proof of this.

 I can find no trace of her once she reached Australia. Did she ever marry ? Did she stay in Victoria ? When did she die ?

Can anyone help me please ??
Thanks Yvonne

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Re: Victoria(possibly but area not def) death+marriage-SMEE, Winifred
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 01 March 11 02:24 GMT (UK) »
Are you sure she got off the ship in Melbourne?  It could have stopped at Fremantle on the way, or gone on to Sydney ??
Uncommon surname - is there any connection with C J Smee who has produced a lot of genealogy / fh books and indexes in Australia.  (Craig James Smee, lives in Sydney, according to library catalogue of QFHS Inc.)

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Re: Victoria(possibly but area not def) death+marriage-SMEE, Winifred
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 01 March 11 10:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dawn - In a word, NO, I don't know anything about where Winnie disembarked. All I know for def is that she sailed to Aust as per my earlier details & then she becomes an absolute mystery !!!!! I do know that she def lived in Aust for some years but where is another question.
The name Craig James Smee doesn't mean anything to me/us but that's not to say there isn't a connection.
Sorry, I'm being terribly vague I know !   ???

Any help anyone can provide would be brilliant 

Many thanks
Yvonne


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Re: Victoria(possibly but area not def) death+marriage-SMEE, Winifred
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 01 March 11 10:46 GMT (UK) »
I have been having a look around for her nothing  as yet

 Did her son stay in England Please?

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Re: Victoria(possibly but area not def) death+marriage-SMEE, Winifred
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 March 11 10:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenn

Yes he did, he stayed with other members of the family here in the UK.

Winnie certainly seems to be proving very elusive doesn't she !

Bye Yvonne

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Re: Victoria(possibly but area not def) death+marriage-SMEE, Winifred
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 01 March 11 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi again Jenn - I've just had another look at the travel recs for Winnie from Southampton - Melbourne, departing UK 29/8/1951.
Under the heading 'passenger detination port' in the trans version + 'Port at which Passengers have contracted to land' in the orig doc - both say Melbourne. So I would assume from this that she did actually disemarked there ?
I've also noticed that she had a middle initial of A.

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Re: Victoria(possibly but area not def) death+marriage-SMEE, Winifred
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 01 March 11 20:58 GMT (UK) »
I notice  the middle initial of A  on  what appears to be her birth registration.

I couldn't find a death to 1984  in Victoria

Nothing in NSW 

Jenn
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TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: Victoria(possibly but area not def) death+marriage-SMEE, Winifred
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 01 March 11 22:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Yvonne,

There is a death on the New Zealand BDM for a Winifred Annie Smee died 2000 but her date of birth is 9th April 1906 so she may not be the lady you are looking for.

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Re: Victoria(possibly but area not def) death+marriage-SMEE, Winifred
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 01 March 11 23:23 GMT (UK) »
Do you know what kind of employment WINNIE was likely to have looked for?

Was she used to city life, or more inclined to living in the country?

Sue

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No newspaper death notice appeared for her (under that name) in Victoria between 1988 and 1992
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