Author Topic: DENMARK to Gloucester England  (Read 3700 times)

Offline kimmacmillan

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Re: DENMARK to Gloucester England
« Reply #9 on: Monday 28 February 11 18:30 GMT (UK) »
Very interesting... it looks like Alfred Holbrook & Adelaide Holbrook are the witnesses. I hadn't thought of that thank you again.

I found the Saffron of Sunderland in 1871 - RG10/1781 286/3 (enumerated in Suffolk).  Captain at that time was John James Ormiston and there were a total of 8 men aboard on the night of the census - master, mate, a cook/steward and 5 A.B. seamen. No Danes aboard.

So he e might have been on the Saffron sometime between 1871 and 1874. On the marriage certificate, who were the witnesses? (They could be fellow sailors).

You would think that he'd show up on parish records/censuses in Køge but I'm not having any luck.
http://www.sa.dk/ao/Kirkeboeger/default.aspx
http://www.ddd.dda.dk/kiplink_en.htm

But he could easily be "lost" somewhere perhaps under an variant spelling (the census indexing is not yet complete), or have been christened in another parish but moved to Koge as a boy.

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Re: DENMARK to Gloucester England
« Reply #10 on: Monday 28 February 11 18:45 GMT (UK) »
Okay, another good site:
http://www.crewlist.org.uk/findingoncrewlists.html

From here on Lloyd's Register of shipping - lists the Saffron in the early 1870s, with captain Ormiston.

http://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/viewcombinedcrews.php?Official_No=54850
 - it appears that the Maritime History Archive might have crew lists for the Saffron for 1872 and 1874.

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/clip-crew-lists-search-start.action
 - also here there there is an possible hit for him in 1901, perhaps he went back to sea later in life?


The Holbrooks are probably brother and sister - in 1871 there is an Alfred Holbrook in Barton St. Mary, an interpreter, with his wife Mary, daughter Alice, and sister Adelaide (she marries in 1875 to Henry Heath and moves to Birmingham with him).
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Re: DENMARK to Gloucester England
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 18 May 11 14:40 BST (UK) »
 ;D I am very happy to report that the ship was the Sappho and the article has been shared amongst the known descendants. It was published in the  Gloucester Citizen on Thursday 29th July 1915. Unfortunately it does not provide the information as to how Theodor Oscar Pedersen and the circumstances of his immigration to England. He was born in 1849 in Køge Denmark. A DNA profile is available on http://www.genetree.com/. A story from a descendant states that Thedore Oscar Pedersen had not intended to immigrate to England from Denmark it was fate that brought him to live in England.

The article itself is of historical importance as it relates to Mr. Oscar Pedersen & the crew of the Sappho being taken from the ship to a concentration camp Ruhleben.

Thank you all for the help and encouragement any future help is still welcome & very very much appreciated.

Kim,
Canada