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Re: Griffith Howell - New Moat
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 08 March 11 12:20 GMT (UK) »
For the information of any Howell hunters. I took the advice of 'Orielbenfro' and didn't give up my search for the parents of Griffith. In 1757, Owen Howell of Henry's Moat (the adjacent parish to New Moat) wrote a will which can be seen on the National Library of Wales website. (The year under which it is listed is 1759.) Two of his sons were named David and Griffith. If you examine the signature of David Howell (a witness) on the above marriage register entry and compare it with the writing on the said will, you may conclude that they were written by the same person. Further, David wrote the letter 'e' in a rather odd way, more like the Greek letter 'theta', and you may note that Griffith wrote the said letter in the same way. My conclusion is that the Griffith and David recorded on the marriage register are almost certainly brothers and the sons of Owen Howell and his wife Anne.

If you agree or disagree with my findings, I would like to here from you, particularly if you are a handwriting expert.

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Re: Griffith Howell - New Moat
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 08 March 11 12:25 GMT (UK) »
For the purposes of clarity. I note that in my previous entry I said that Owen Howell 'wrote a will'. I should have said, 'made a will'. Owen couldn't write, he only made his mark at the bottom. So, someone else actually wrote it.
Sorry for any confusion that I may have caused.

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Re: Griffith Howell - New Moat
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 15 March 11 17:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi bolttail

Do you have in your Tree a Griffith Howell & his wife Mary.Grirffith born C1826 ?

If these 2 are yours ,i have the MI for them

Kind Regards

omega
Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Griffith Howell - New Moat
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 16 March 11 10:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Omega 1. The Griffith Howell you refer to isn't on my tree, but I have a feeling that he and Mary should be. So, yes please, I would like the MI for them, and I'll try and see where they fit in. Obviously the location is important to me. Many thanks.


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Re: Griffith Howell - New Moat
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 16 March 11 10:30 GMT (UK) »
Hi bolttail

Griffith & Mary Howells were living on a Farm called Cefnos, Llanycefn

Er cof am/Griffith Howells/Cefnos,o`r plwyf hwn/yr hwn a fu farw/Tachwedd 30 1896/yn 70 ml oed/Hefyd am/Mary Howells/ei anwyl briod a fu farw/Hydref 18 1904/yn 71 ml oed/Hefyd Martha ei merch a fu/farw Hydref 21 1871/yn 16 mis oed.

anwyl briod means beloved wife, merch is daughter.

They may fit in somewhere

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PS,if you google uk,welsh words and phrases on headstone,it gives the translations :)
Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Griffith Howell - New Moat
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 16 March 11 10:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi bolttail

I have looked on the 71/81 & 1891 census

Griffith was from New Moat :D

Kind Regards

omega
Pembrokeshire
James,Gibby,David/Davies,Evan/s,Edward,Thomas,Griffith,Brown,Richards,Phillipps
Carmarthenshire
Thomas,Wilkin,James
Glamorganshire
James
Husbands side
Sussex,Mitchell,White,Hew/Hugh,Peter/s,Lower,Goring,Skinner,Cavey,Padgham,Brann,Graves,Hards,Easton,Moon,Gibb/s,Shepherd
Kent,Curties,Harris/Cleverly
Buckinhamshire
Shephard,Tuck,Philips

Scotland,Riddle

Todd,could be Old Windsor or somewhere I Lincolnshire,John Todd didn't seem to know

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Re: Griffith Howell - New Moat
« Reply #24 on: Sunday 18 September 11 17:07 BST (UK) »
Read this thread with interest as I am descended from Benjamin Howell (1769).  My notes showed that the occupation of blacksmith was inherited not just by Benjamin but also his brother William who was a master blacksmith and publican.  He ran the Three Horseshoes Public House at Robeston West with his unmarried sister Celia. :)

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Re: Griffith Howell - New Moat
« Reply #25 on: Sunday 19 February 17 10:17 GMT (UK) »
Wow! This is all absolutely fascinating! I am also an ancestor of Griffith Howell - however my tree suggests he married Phoebe (Phebe) Morse; their son William Howell born 1845 was born to the Blacksmith family there in New Moat but eventually moved to Cwm Du, in Glamorganshire.

Anyone have any information on family pre-dating 1806?

thanks so much,


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Re: Griffith Howell - New Moat
« Reply #26 on: Sunday 19 February 17 13:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi 'kimberleybell',

You're welcome to everything I have.  Send your email address to me as a private message.