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Canal Boatmen in Wolverhampton
« on: Sunday 27 February 11 14:16 GMT (UK) »


 Please can anyone help me?

I am looking for   Sarah and Joseph TURTON in the 1841 census   and their children
John 11/12 --- William 9---Mary 5/6---Thomas 4.
 I feel sure they ought to be in the Wolverhampton / Tettenhall areas ...........

any help would be greatly appreciated.
Turton            Canals     
Wood             Canals
Neale               Canals
Cartwright      Canals
Grainger          Canals


Beesley , Perry, [ West Brom and Wednesbury ]
 
Barker,  Tranter, Rich, Jones, Glover [ Midlands, Dudley ]

Darby,      Northampton/Rugby
Birtwisle   Cheshire/Shropshire

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Re: Canal Boatmen in Wolverhampton
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 27 February 11 14:23 GMT (UK) »
I assume from your heading that Josephs occupation was a boatman

Do you know where any of the family were born  ??? that would help

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I feel sure they ought to be in the Wolverhampton / Tettenhall areas ..

Why do you think that ???, with that occupation they would have moved around a lot .
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Re: Canal Boatmen in Wolverhampton
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 February 11 14:49 GMT (UK) »
Hello.
 
Yes, you assume correctly.
The first indication that Joseph was a Boatman was on his sons baptismal entry in Tettenhall Parish Church in 1831.
and from then onwards he and his Family always gave their occupation as Boatmen .........
 They moved about a lot  Mitton, Tipton, Worsley and Tettenhall. [although to settle is not really what they did  , they sort of holed up for ???? the night/day  and then carried on moving.]

I have them as a family on the 1851 Census in Tipton,  but have not found them there in 1841...so wondered if they were in the Wolverhampton area.

sallie

Turton            Canals     
Wood             Canals
Neale               Canals
Cartwright      Canals
Grainger          Canals


Beesley , Perry, [ West Brom and Wednesbury ]
 
Barker,  Tranter, Rich, Jones, Glover [ Midlands, Dudley ]

Darby,      Northampton/Rugby
Birtwisle   Cheshire/Shropshire

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Re: Canal Boatmen in Wolverhampton
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 February 11 16:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Looked hard but they are being very elusive.
The nearest i ve come is
1841 HO107/998  17/8  8
Compton, Tettenhall
Thomas Turton 5
Mary Turton      1
Elizabeth Cartwright  20
Possibly others in household
If ages were confused? I see you have Cartwright  in your surname interests. There are several Boatmen living as neighbours.
Also but not holding out much hope!
1841, Water Row, Wolverhampton.
Ho107/1001  1/24  17
Joseph and Sarah Churton and family but his occupation is Lab.

Cathy
Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

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Re: Canal Boatmen in Wolverhampton
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 February 11 16:37 GMT (UK) »
What were the names of Joseph and Sarah's children  POB and DOB if
known please  ???

Is this the correct family in 1851  ???

 HO107; Piece: 2029; Folio: 221; Page: 55;
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Re: Canal Boatmen in Wolverhampton
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 27 February 11 16:48 GMT (UK) »
Hello Again.............

 Thankyou so much for replying to me and showing so much interest..................greatly appreciated.............

 Sarah was Sarah Cartwright....................
 Joseph  is just Joseph Turton.

Their Children until the 1841 census were

  John                     Worsley           1829
  William                Tettenhall        1831
 Joseph                 Tettenhall        1833 
  Mary                      Tettenhall         1835

  Thomas              Mitton                 183???       


 The Churton bit is not suprising as Turton is often miss spelt and can cause problems..........

 Sallie   
Turton            Canals     
Wood             Canals
Neale               Canals
Cartwright      Canals
Grainger          Canals


Beesley , Perry, [ West Brom and Wednesbury ]
 
Barker,  Tranter, Rich, Jones, Glover [ Midlands, Dudley ]

Darby,      Northampton/Rugby
Birtwisle   Cheshire/Shropshire

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Re: Canal Boatmen in Wolverhampton
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 27 February 11 17:21 GMT (UK) »
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Ho107/1001  1/24  17
Joseph and Sarah Churton and family but his occupation is Lab.

This one is a real quandary, they have a 15 years old Hannah with them but Joseph and Sarah were not married until 1829  but as no relationships are given she is not necessarily their daughter, John fits with the right birth date and Joseph 8 may have died.... all possibilites but cant prove any.

Tried searching them using just christian names but as not POB is listed in 1841 it like looking for a needle in a haystack  :(
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Re: Canal Boatmen in Wolverhampton
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 February 11 18:21 GMT (UK) »
ThanKyou so much for spending your sunday afternoon looking for them.
Sarah and Joseph were married in 1829 you were right,
and they spent about 20 years having babies.
 I have the later years of their life but it is the earlier years I am missing hence this 1841 bussines.
         I think that a visit to Wolverhampton Archives is now in order.

 It is so difficult when you are looking on the canals.. they could be just anywhere!
Thankyou again ................

sallie
Turton            Canals     
Wood             Canals
Neale               Canals
Cartwright      Canals
Grainger          Canals


Beesley , Perry, [ West Brom and Wednesbury ]
 
Barker,  Tranter, Rich, Jones, Glover [ Midlands, Dudley ]

Darby,      Northampton/Rugby
Birtwisle   Cheshire/Shropshire

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Re: Canal Boatmen in Wolverhampton
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 February 11 19:37 GMT (UK) »
No problem  :)

I did notice however that in 1851 Joseph's occupation is listed as Publican, his sons were down a captian of a boat  and boatman
this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith.    West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs,   Essex  Barker,   Hampshire  Kill, Kent Spong,   U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley