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RENNARD on the ship 'Sophocles' completed
« on: Friday 04 March 11 18:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi can anyone help I have found my great Aunt Sarah Ann Rennard sailing on the ship 'Sophocles' London to Australia 6th December 1922. We were always told that she emigrated along with her husband Hartley Rennard. I have searched all 17 pages of the ships passengers but cannot find him. Could he have been one of the crew if so how could I find out, he was born 1870 ish on the census he is a general moulder so he would be in his late forties early fiftys when they emigrated . My father told me that Aunt Sarah came back home when he died.

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Re: RENNARD on the ship 'Sophocles'
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 March 11 21:57 GMT (UK) »
Australian death certificates usually have a great deal of information on  them, including how long in the colonies  (Australia(

He died in NSW
reg no
10394/1923 
RENNARD  HARTLEY 
father MARMADUKE mother  MARY
district  REDFERN   

here is his death notice from  the SMH
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/16079588?searchTerm=Rennard&searchLimits=l-title=The+Sydney+Morning+Herald...%7Ctitleid%3A35|||l-decade=192


a slight mistranslation of his surname on the cemetery records taken from Rookwood Independant Section
Surname RENWARD 
Given Names HARTLEY 
Age 54 Y
Date of Death   
Date of Interment 10 Jul 1923
   
Denomination Methodist 
Section 2 
Grave Number 0000845

a possible remarriage
reg no 9745/1924
groom  FRETTON  WILLIAM G 
bride RENNARD  SARAH A 

and death
reg no 20651/1953
 FRETTON  SARAH ANN 
father RICHARD 
mother SARAH JANE 
district BANKSTOWN 

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Re: RENNARD on the ship 'Sophocles'
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 March 11 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jenn,
Thanks alot for all the information on Hartley. From your information it seems Hartley was only in Australia 7 month before he died. Sarah Ann his wife was our fathers aunt and he has always wondered what happened to them. When Sarah Ann came back to England in the early forties my father went to meet her when she docked. He has just told me that she actually went back to Australia as she couldnt settle so if you could possibly find her death that would be very helpful. Thanks again for your help.

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Re: RENNARD on the ship 'Sophocles'
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 March 11 23:26 GMT (UK) »
In my reply I did detail a possible remarriage and her death, do the parents names match in the death for Sarah Ann Fretton?

What makes you think that Hartley was only in Australia 7 months when he died please?


Thanks Jenn
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HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
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Re: RENNARD on the ship 'Sophocles'
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 March 11 23:41 GMT (UK) »
This link will take you to a funeral notice for SARAH ANN FRETTON on 7/9/1953
 
Of 42 Warwick Street Punchbowl

She was to be interred at Rookwood Cemetery.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0c4k/

Sue
ADDING

This looks like the death of her second husband

REG 22204 In 1942  FRETTON,  WILLIAM GEORGE
  Father WILLIAM GEORGE
  Mother ELIZABETH
  At ROCKDALE   



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Re: RENNARD on the ship 'Sophocles'
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 05 March 11 00:15 GMT (UK) »
HARTLEY was just  a little older than you thought ;)

Here is his birth for your records

June 1/4 1868

RENNARD,    Hartley
Bradford,Yk
Vol 9b pg223

His parents' marriage

Marriages Jun 1/4  1853
Hartley,     Mary       
Bradford Y
 vol 9b   pg 88
To Rennard,  Marmaduke,



And HARTLEY's marriage

Marriages Jun 1/4  1897   
Hughes    Sarah Ann
At Sheffield
vol 9c pg882
to Rennard Hartley

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Re: RENNARD on the ship 'Sophocles'
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 05 March 11 00:26 GMT (UK) »
http://www.findmypast.co.uk/passengerListPersonSearchStart.action?submit=1&offset=0

Findmypast

shows a record for a HARDLEY Rennard going to Australia in 1922


unfortunately I don't have a subscription for this site  :(
Jenn
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I live in Townsville researching
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SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
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Re: RENNARD on the ship 'Sophocles'
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 05 March 11 00:46 GMT (UK) »
In my reply I did detail a possible remarriage and her death, do the parents names match in the death for Sarah Ann Fretton?

What makes you think that Hartley was only in Australia 7 months when he died please?


Thanks Jenn
   
Hi Jenn,
Only got half your reply up to Hartleys death, rest of info about Sarah appeared after I replied to you. Since then I have found Hartley Sarah and an adopted daughter Hilda sailed to Sydney 11th January 1913, so I presume the other record in 1922 must have been Sarah returning to Australia after a visit here. What a surprise even my father didnt know she had remarried or that she had an adopted daughter.   When she returned again in the 40s it must have been after the death of her second husband.  My father said that he always wondered why she returned to Australia again as he thought she had no family to return to but obviously she returned to be with her daughter.  It would be interesting to know if Hilda married and had any children. Thank you for all your help I have learnt alot today.

Regards Di

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Re: RENNARD on the ship 'Sophocles'
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 05 March 11 01:06 GMT (UK) »
Since then I have found Hartley Sarah and an adopted daughter Hilda sailed to Sydney 11th January 1913, so I

Is  this information correct or did you meant  to put Rennard?

Jenn
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I live in Townsville researching
TOWNSEND,PINNEGAR, STRANGE, PULLEN, GRIFFIN from Wiltshire,,
SHOEBRIDGE, VINALL, BRINDLE, Kent
BAYLEY, Dorset,Yorkshire,
HAIR, Durham,
CUMMINS, BROWNLESS from Yorkshire,
EDSALL,  Cornwall,
MORGAN, HENNESSY, BAKER,  Ireland.
VAN REYK Sri Lanka
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.au