Elsie HARROP (nee WILLIAMS) b. abt 1893 d. 1932

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Also there was a suggestion that there was an Elsie and Mabel Williams at Styal Cottage Homes, Handforth in Cheshire.  The ages didn't quite fit for both of them (from the ages that I was working on), and there wasn't a mention of an "Alice May".

I don't know what Styal Cottage Homes is, or was? 


AB

[keyboard86]

Hi AB, just Google it, some lovely photos!

Keyboard86

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Hmmmm - I see.


AB

[RonOne]

Edith Williams d/o Edmund Alfred Williams & Caroline
Baptised 03 Mar 1888 at St. Matthews, Manchester, Lancashire

Emily Williams d/o Edmund Alfred Williams & Caroline
Baptised 21 Jun 1893 at St. Matthews, Manchester, Lancashire

Harold Williams s/o Edmund Alfred Williams & Caroline
Baptised 21 Mar 1894 at St. John, Manchester, Lancashire

Mary Alice Williams d/o Edmund Alfred Williams & Caroline
Baptised 21 Mar 1894 at St. John, Manchester, Lancashire

Mabel Williams d/o Alfred Williams & Caroline
Baptised 14 May 1896 at St. Matthews, Manchester, Lancashire

Elsie Williams d/o Edmund Alfred Williams & Caroline
Baptised 20 Oct 1897 at St. John, Manchester, Lancashire

Leonard Williams s/o Alfred Williams & Caroline
Baptised 21 Feb 1900 at St. John, Manchester, Lancashire

[RonOne]

Could the Mary Alice be your Alice May?

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Regarding Alice May - I just re-checked her death details and they say she was 63 yrs of age, when she died in 1963 - so this would put her birth yr at 1899 or 1900, so 1894 sounds a bit early (assuming of course her death record is correct).

Mabel's death record says she was 49 yrs of age when she died in 1951 which would put her birth yr at 1901 or 1902 - so this is also a couple of yrs after what you found.

 


AB

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Are those parish records for St Matthews and St John online?  I was just wondering whether we could confirm if the "Edmund and Caroline" are the same as the "Alfred and Caroline" perhaps by their address?   


AB

[RonOne]

Are those parish records for St Matthews and St John online?

The partial transcripts are on Family Search

I've learnt to keep an open mind regarding ages. My wife's grandmother was born 1893 on her marriage cert in 1922 she gives her age as 25 (her husband was 24). Both her birth and marriage certificates that I have are the original ones from my father-in-law. My 3xgreat-grandfather aged 30 years over 20 from the 1841 census to the 1861 census, definitely the same person as always at the same address, with the same occupation and same wife and children.

[RonOne]

Looking at the family of Edmund Alfred and Caroline.

You have five names that possibly fit:

Edmund Alfred/Edward Alfred
Caroline
Mary Alice could be Alice May
Mabel
Elsie