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Offline greenvalley

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Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
« on: Wednesday 09 March 11 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I came accross the death of Thomas Matson, who lived at the Lodging House at 77 Drygate Street in Barony Glasgow in 1927.

I wonder whether this was a poorhouse, or a real lodging house. Does anyone know?

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ANDERSON: Moray & Jamaica
ELDER: Stirlingshire, Perthshire & Glasgow
WILSON: Glenisla, Alyth & Dundee
GRANT & ATKINSON:Northumberland
HARRIS: Dron and Glasgow
MATSON: Glasgow and Belfast
OLIVER, HARDY & GIBSON: Ireland, Antrim Belfast
TODD: England and Jamaica
McGRIGOR, McILCHONNEL: Perthshire

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Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 17:13 GMT (UK) »
A lodging house would provide basic food and shelter often for itinerant workers.

The poor house was just that a home for the poor when workhouses were phased out.
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Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 18:00 GMT (UK) »
Poorhouse was the Scottish equivalent of the English term workhouse.
A lodging house was, as Emjaybee pointed out, a "Boarding House", very basic and not always very clean. Glasgow Corporation (now Glasgow City Council) ran many "Model Lodging Houses" mostly for men but there were a few for women.
The one in the Drygate many have been a "Model" as they were known, I'm not too sure.

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Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 18:21 GMT (UK) »
You are absolutely right in your hunch, Lodger  ;) From the 1927 PO directory, it shows as a Model Lodging House http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~glasgow/1927address845.jpg

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Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 18:25 GMT (UK) »
Glasgow Post office street directory for 1933 shows 77 Drygate  C4 as "Model Lodging House".  Wm Jardine (living at 85 Drygate) is listed as the "Superintendant Drygate Home"  at 77 Drygate.
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BROWN - Hamilton, Lanarkshire
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Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 18:31 GMT (UK) »
Still showing up to 1959 - later photo here www.rootschat.com/links/0c74/
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Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 March 11 23:40 GMT (UK) »
There is still a Model Lodging House on the Gallowgate as far as I know, just before you get to The Barrows.

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Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 10 March 11 14:16 GMT (UK) »
Thank you guys, I loved the pictures.

I did think that Thomas may not have been very well off. He was 75 years old when he died and he was a shoemaker, although I'm not sure if he was still working.

Mind you, I can easily see myself in one of those in years to come if things keep going the way they are and of course we'll all still be working our socks of at the tender age of 75  ;D

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ANDERSON: Moray & Jamaica
ELDER: Stirlingshire, Perthshire & Glasgow
WILSON: Glenisla, Alyth & Dundee
GRANT & ATKINSON:Northumberland
HARRIS: Dron and Glasgow
MATSON: Glasgow and Belfast
OLIVER, HARDY & GIBSON: Ireland, Antrim Belfast
TODD: England and Jamaica
McGRIGOR, McILCHONNEL: Perthshire

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Re: Is lodging house same as poorhouse?
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 12 March 11 14:47 GMT (UK) »
I would be interested to find out when these "Model / Boarding Houses" ceased .

I remember my mum mentioning gents from "the model" in Mossend, coming around the doors selling matches. This would have been around 1954-1960.

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