Thomas Owen Williams

[cae howell]

I'm researching my grandfathers family I wonder if anyone could help me his name was Thomas Owen Williams he was born in Amlwch workhouse in 1874 then I find that he go's to live with his grandparents their names where Owen and Ellen Williams they had a small holding called Gwy Delyn Llanbedrig Anglesey can anybody tell anything about this family through census or if they have them on their tree many thanks for your help

[janinez]

1881 census - Wales

Owen Williams 47 head Ag Lab/general servant b. Amlwch
margaret do 26 wife  b. Amlwch
John do son 7 scholar
thomas do son 5 scholar
Grace do dau 2

all born Amlwch, living Fany? Bryn Rd, Amlwch

RG 11 / 5590 / 76 / pg 22

Is this them?? the only ones I can see born Amlwch. No sign of an Ellen unless she is/was margaret Ellen??

Do you know any of his siblings names or actual parents?

[cae howell]

No they are both born in Llanbedrig and on the 1881  census, it has Llanbedrig and not amlwch with Owen and his wife Ellen and grandson Thomas and servant

[janinez]

I'm sorry I was under the impression he was born in Almwch from your first post. I thought you were after census. Can you tell us which census you already have or/and what you are actually after 

from your first post:-
"his name was Thomas Owen Williams he was born in Amlwch workhouse in 1874 then I find that he go's to live with his grandparents their names where Owen and Ellen Williams they had a small holding called Gwy Delyn Llanbedrig Anglesey can anybody tell anything about this family through census"

[janinez]

oops - did twice for some reason, silly me 

[cae howell]

Thomas Owen Williams was born in Amlwch Workhouse I have his birth cert he was born out of wedlock most likely his mother could'nt look after him so he was sent to live with his grand parents what I am after is the grandparents history I know that Ellen was born in Llanbedrig and her husband they are in the census for 1881 living in Llanbedrig and that he is a farmer thank you

[Tall Al]

Hi,

I can see Owen and his wife in 1881/71/61/51 censuses - always at Gwyddelyn in Llanbadrig, Anglesey - and a Farmer

1881 - Gwyddelyn
Owen - age 76
Ellen - age 71
Owen T - (Grandson) - age 5 - says born Llanbadrig

What happened to their son Thomas in 1881 (see below) - has he married and started his own family?

1871 - Gwyddelyn Isaf
Owen  - age 65
Elin - age 61
Thomas (Son) - age 23

1861 - Gwyddelyn
Owen - age 58
Ellen - age 50
Thomas (Son) - age 15
Catherine Hughes (House Servant) age 17

1851 - Gwyddelyn
Owen - age 45
Eleanor - age 41
Thomas (Son) - age 3

1841 - Gwyddelyn
Owen - age 40
Mary Williams age 15  - ? Sister/ House servant - Nothing shown to identify who this is


All born in Llanbadrig.

Do you know Ellen/Elin/Eleanor's maiden name or when she married Owen? - presumably between 1841/51.

Alan

[cae howell]

Sorry I have no idea the maiden name of Ellen or what happened  to  Thomas, only  that they had a daughter called Mary who had  Thomas Owen my grandfather in Amlwch workhouse,  who went on into the army he married in 1914 my mother was born in 1916 and he lost his life in the same year when his ship was sunk off Ireland called  the Connemara

[Tall Al]

What a sad story.

Think I have found some more information for you. All still in Llanbadrig

1881 Shop y Bont -

Thomas - age 33
Anne (wife) - age 39
William T - age 2
Mary Hughes (Servant) - age 22

1891 back at Gwyddelyn

Thomas now a Farmer  - age 43
Ann - age 50
Owen T (Son) - age 15
William T (Son) - age 12

I assume Owen and wife Ellen died 1881/1891. 

1901 - High Street

Ann - age 60 (Widow)
William (Son) - age 22

Thomas must have died 1891/1901 - There are several possibilities on Free BMD


Alan