Whitehead Marshall Leslie Fife 1800 all

[diddymiller]

sadly we lost the rugby by playing an appalling game. our only hope is that France beat Wales - and i NEVER thought i'd say that!!

off to play bridge instead...

Diddy 

[diddymiller]

just checked that death on SP and although down as

8/8/1851 Robert Marchell, Dysart  i think this might be him as record clearly says April 8 - 4 days after he died.

Diddy

[diddymiller]

1851 census was 30/3/1851 so this is hom on the census:

1851 gallowtown, Dysart
Ann Drysburgh  head  28
Helen    "            dau    3
Robert marshal   lodger   wid   hawker     b. leslie

Montana - sending you copy of full by email.

possible 3 bap for a Robert marshall 1807 fife.

Diddy 

[Montana272]

Thank you so much, this is amazing.  You found the mising link. He was a Hawker, and he was widowed.   I don't understand what it means by in the grave of David.   It is strange too that Ancestry.com does not have this record.  If they do have it then the name is spelled wrong for Ann's last name.  It does not come up at all.   Thank you so much again.

Deb

[NorrieG]

7/4/1851 Robert marshall  leslie; age nk; hawker of stoneware
death sudden - in Pathhead - see Fifeshire journal 8 April

Hi Montana  this is from the local paper

Fifeshire  Journal  8th April 1851

Sudden Death ---- Yesterday Robert Marshall Hawker of Stoneware,
belonging to Leslie, while plying his vocation here, called at the house
of one of our villagers in a state of partial intoxication and asked permission
to rest himself. He was put to into bed but not awakening at the time expected,
the women of the house on going to call him found him cold and lifeless.
The immediate cause of his death was Apoplexy, brought on by hard drinking.

I would assume he must have known this women quite well
to have been allowed to use her bed to rest,
maybe she was more than a villager, or has this women
some connection to the David Westwater with who Robert shared a grave,
when David Westwater wife Janet Thomson died in 1856
there was no room in Davids grave and she was buried in her son in laws grave of David Hoy.

NorrieG

[Montana272]

Thanks. After finding out that Robert was accused with Thomas Williamson, ( if I understand that correctly)  It brought to mind a census of 1851 of a Margaret Marshall ( but the date of birth for my Margaret Marshall is off by about four years.) This  Margaret Marshall is living with a Williamson family.  It says in the relationship notes that Margaret Marshall is  their "daughter" but then another child with the last name Donaldson is also listed as their " child"  along with one other child with the last name also Williamson.  I found it odd because the location was Patthead, address Mid Street.  Patthead being the same location in the old newspaper clipping of where Robert died.  The age of the head of the house David Williamson is 54 and his wife Hellen  ( williamson) is 37 Roberts address in 1851 is Gallatown Fife, living there as a lodger to Ann Dryburgh.  Am I grasping at straws that this might be the home in Pathhead of the Williamson's where he went to lay down and then died?  This is so hard.  I think I might have to give up. LOL

[Montana272]

7/4/1851 Robert marshall  leslie; age nk; hawker of stoneware
death sudden - in Pathhead - see Fifeshire journal 8 April

Hi Montana  this is from the local paper

Fifeshire  Journal  8th April 1851

Sudden Death ---- Yesterday Robert Marshall Hawker of Stoneware,
belonging to Leslie, while plying his vocation here, called at the house
of one of our villagers in a state of partial intoxication and asked permission
to rest himself. He was put to into bed but not awakening at the time expected,
the women of the house on going to call him found him cold and lifeless.
The immediate cause of his death was Apoplexy, brought on by hard drinking.

I would assume he must have known this women quite well
to have been allowed to use her bed to rest,
maybe she was more than a villager, or has this women
some connection to the David Westwater with who Robert shared a grave,
when David Westwater wife Janet Thomson died in 1856
there was no room in Davids grave and she was buried in her son in laws grave of David Hoy.

NorrieG

I think that you are on to something there.  I am going to try and look more into this and find out more about David Westwaters wife.   Thank you so much for your help.

[NorrieG]

Hi Deborah 

Death Janet Thomson

Janet Thomson Dysart Sinclartown died 28.5.1856
Age 71
Widow of David Westwater ( Mason )
Cause Strangulation hernia ( 2 days )
Daughter of John Thomson & Alison Goodall
 Norrie

[Montana272]

You are such a big help to me.  Thank you so much.   I have been laid off from work and searching helps me to keep from getting depressed.  Yet I had not been able to afford it.  LOL  Thanks so much again.
Just want to also say how lucky you are to live in Scotland, the most beautiful country I have ever seen, in pictures.  I love it so much. 
Deb