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Black Brook, Gwysaney???
« on: Tuesday 29 March 11 20:19 BST (UK) »
I'm curious about Black Brook, was it a house or a street? Researching my ancestors and they lived there in the 1841 and 1851 census. Thanks
Bell, Hughes, Jones

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Re: Black Brook, Gwysaney???
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 29 March 11 20:46 BST (UK) »
Hi

There were no streets as such in rural Wales during this time period.    The name is most likely to be a cottage or a farm or possible even a pub - especially if in English. 

Can you please provide census references for the family and location in 1841 and 1851? 

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Re: Black Brook, Gwysaney???
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 29 March 11 20:55 BST (UK) »
Thank you! Thats what I thought but wasn't sure.
1841
Black Brook, Gwysaney,
Mold. Flintshire, Wales

Thomas Hughes b 1806 Agriculture Laborer
Mary                   b 1811
Robert                b 1860
John                   b 1832
Mary                   b 1834
Thomas              b 1836

I misplaced the 1851 census and can't find them but I know I've seen it.
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Re: Black Brook, Gwysaney???
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 29 March 11 21:55 BST (UK) »
Hi

From looking at the 1841 (reference H107/piece 1410/district 5/folio 10/page 14) it looks like Black Brook was three households away from Gwsaney Hall which was enumerated just before the quarry.   

On the current Ordnance Survey map Gwsaney is spelled Gwysaney.   

HTH
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Re: Black Brook, Gwysaney???
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 29 March 11 22:24 BST (UK) »
Thank you!! I did find the 1851 census saved it to my tree this time.
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Re: Black Brook, Gwysaney???
« Reply #5 on: Friday 03 June 11 00:42 BST (UK) »
Black Brook is a country lane that runs from Mold to the village of Sychdyn.
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Re: Black Brook, Gwysaney???
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 04 June 11 21:29 BST (UK) »
The c1870 OS map appears to confirm what both Heather and Jeffro said. There appear to be three properties, one on the east side of the lane and two on the west. 
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Re: Black Brook, Gwysaney???
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 05 June 11 09:30 BST (UK) »
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/Sychdyncrosskeys.jpg

 The road sign outside the pub is Blackbrook.
 Keep clicking the pic for a bigger view
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Re: Black Brook, Gwysaney???
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 25 June 11 16:34 BST (UK) »
Thank you all so much for your help, it's appreciated. The picture is great!!
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